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11/30/2005 6:22 am
And people liked to use "flip flop" and Kerry in the same sentence... :confused:

i like the term sub-humans rather than people
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11/30/2005 6:24 am
my god, you people reply faster then I can read! sheesh!
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11/30/2005 6:26 am
i want an avatar!!!! dammit jim!!!!
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11/30/2005 6:34 am
Originally Posted by: z0s0_jpyou got it, but i don't think you realize it.


I love the irony
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11/30/2005 12:32 pm
Heres an issue of mine with global warming: The same people that are proposing laws such as the Global Warming Act, that President Bush refuses to sign, are the same people that are criticizing the president on the high unemployment rate. Do you know how many jobs would be lost if the something like the Global Warming Act was passed? You cant have your cake and eat it too people.

Basically every decision George W makes is a lose lose situation. The liberals will find something to complain about. Imagine if we wouldve gotten attacked by Iraq with wmd's after how many ultimatums weve sent them and how long theyve bs'd the UN weapons inspectors......The media wouldve had a field day.
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11/30/2005 2:50 pm
I'd rather have my planet and live on it too.

Think of all the jobs that would be created through working on making new energy sources viable for the country?
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11/30/2005 4:26 pm
All Im saying is theres critics from every angle. What was the correct response to 9/11? You guys tell me. And we're already clear on what you think is the incorrect response, enlighten me on what we shouldve done in your opinion. IMO, we did the right thing.
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11/30/2005 4:45 pm
I was all about the response to taking out the Taliban and Afghanistan. After all, the masterminds of that attack were from there. Invading Iraq a year and a half later through deceptive reasons was wrong (I know democrats voted for it too, and should be held responsible).

Attacking Iraq made as much sense as invading Canada after 9/11. Your average joe loves seeing an Arab and thinking terrorist. None of the highjackers were from Iraq, but you know where most of them were from? Saudi Arabia. I'm sure you know about the connections (business and personal) that Bush (and his administration) has to that country.
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11/30/2005 4:51 pm
Originally Posted by: stacknyWhat was the correct response to 9/11?


9/11 justified going into Afghanistan. 9/11 did not justify going into Irak.

Going into Irak is a disaster all by itself.
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11/30/2005 4:55 pm
Originally Posted by: Leedogg

Attacking Iraq made as much sense as invading Canada after 9/11. Your average joe loves seeing an Arab and thinking terrorist. None of the highjackers were from Iraq, but you know where most of them were from? Saudi Arabia. I'm sure you know about the connections (business and personal) that Bush (and his administration) has to that country.


Now lets not go overboard. Im not even gonna address that first sentence because you and I both no thats not true and just a rediculous statement. Saudi Arabia wasnt the threat. The Saudi Arabian government is allies of ours. Iraq is not friends of ours, harbors terrorists, and for the 50th time has bs'd our weapons inspectors for years.
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11/30/2005 5:09 pm
Originally Posted by: stacknyNow lets not go overboard. Im not even gonna address that first sentence because you and I both no thats not true and just a rediculous statement. Saudi Arabia wasnt the threat. The Saudi Arabian government is allies of ours. Iraq is not friends of ours, harbors terrorists, and for the 50th time has bs'd our weapons inspectors for years.

You missed the point dude. Canada had just as much involvement in 9/11 as Iraq did. None. So what difference would it make if we attacked Canada instead because they both had the same involvement. All Bush would've had to have said is Canada has WMDs. It's only ridiculous if you don't allow logic in. And just because Iraq hasn't been truly honest about their weapons inspection doesn't mean they're always lying. And considering we still haven't found the weapons we went in for it doesn't look good in our favor.
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11/30/2005 5:15 pm
Muhhamed Atta(lead jacker)was from egypt...Lets bomb the pyramids,they might be harboring terrorists.

When since are we the world police?(besides team america).Giving iraq ultimatums?The U.S dosn't run the world...iraq was not enganging the U.S at all(yeah,we fly over a no fly zone,get shot at and declare a war...great).

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I'm actually very surprised the U.S hasn't turned out a few blank WMD's to justify the war.
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11/30/2005 5:55 pm
Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheartWhen since are we the world police?(besides team america).Giving iraq ultimatums?The U.S dosn't run the world...iraq was not enganging the U.S at all(yeah,we fly over a no fly zone,get shot at and declare a war...great).

Since Theodore Roosevelt. And, once again, we haven't declared a war.
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11/30/2005 6:01 pm
Correct...we ditched congress too :p
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11/30/2005 6:14 pm
Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheartCorrect...we ditched congress too :p

Arguable, I mean, yes, you could take the side that the president is being a bit too liberal with his power to send troops to combat without actually declaring war, but congress has voted to keep the troops there.
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11/30/2005 6:26 pm
I bet there are way more terrorists in Iraq now than before. Destablizing a volatile middle east is dangerous business.
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11/30/2005 6:48 pm
orin hatch thinks were in viet nam.....how dumb are these guys???
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11/30/2005 9:16 pm
Originally Posted by: Cryptic ExcretionsYou missed the point dude. Canada had just as much involvement in 9/11 as Iraq did. None. So what difference would it make if we attacked Canada instead because they both had the same involvement. All Bush would've had to have said is Canada has WMDs. It's only ridiculous if you don't allow logic in. And just because Iraq hasn't been truly honest about their weapons inspection doesn't mean they're always lying. And considering we still haven't found the weapons we went in for it doesn't look good in our favor.[/QUOTE]

France is the only other country on this planet that is more worthless than Canada. And what do ya know! France used to own it!

Anyways, youre whole post is just one big heap of silliness. Youre not honestly that naive are you? How can you give any benefit of a doubt to them?

And Id also like to clarify, its a war on terrorism, not a war on Iraq.

[QUOTE=Leedogg]I bet there are way more terrorists in Iraq now than before. Destablizing a volatile middle east is dangerous business.


And Id bet your wrong. And even if theyre are, they arent half as dangerous as they were because theyre not getting any money from all the ring leaders that have been taken out.
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11/30/2005 10:10 pm
Originally Posted by: stacknyFrance is the only other country on this planet that is more worthless than Canada. And what do ya know! France used to own it!

Anyways, youre whole post is just one big heap of silliness. Youre not honestly that naive are you? How can you give any benefit of a doubt to them?

And Id also like to clarify, its a war on terrorism, not a war on Iraq.

What exactly is he naive on?
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11/30/2005 10:47 pm
Originally Posted by: PonyOneyou know, there's really nothing wrong with France... to be honest I've met a lot of really, really nice people from France, and the whole French-hating thing is just ignorant to me. If you wanna talk about "worthless" countries, there are places like Latvia, Estonia, Laos, etc that have negligible GNP's, don't really contribute to world culture, and just sort of sit there...

Bush's overstepping of congress to fight a war was just plain wrong, and IMHO perfectly illustrates perfectly how he has absolutely no regard for how this country is set up to work.

In all fairness, Latvia, Estonia, and Loas have had rocky histories...

Also, take a look at the war powers act, overstepping congress seems "right" according to federal law, so I think we're good.
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