now THATS unbelievable!

Originally posted by aiwass
Bach and Beethoven were composers. Classical musicians in general don't compose. I'm sure they write the occasional thingy at home when they're bored, but their job is to create the most accurate rendition of someone else's work. It's also a well-known fact that many of the greatest classical musicians in the world are very poor improvisers - they simply never focused on that aspect of playing.

I can see how classical players couldn't impovise

But I would hope there are a number of people out there still writing compositions, or no more classical music is going to be written, and that would be lame

has anyone ever heard of Garrett Dahm?

he's a classicaly trained guitarist who lives in chicago and he's 16, most of the songs on his record are on these videos and I prefer his versions, they're more powerfully executed

I wish I could hear that stuff...... My computer is sooooo slow I can't hear the songs.....

Yes its true, most classical musicians don't compose. They chose the route of recreating other masters music. Kind of like a young Schubert (for those of you who don't know, Franz Schubert was a classical musician in this sense until he was middle aged, and got inspired by gypsy music and started to compose).

As Yngwie once said, "You've got Bach, Beethoven, Paginini.... those guys were improvising dudes.... they would just sit there and let the ideas flow.... I know a bunch of classical musicians, who if you put a piece in front of them, they can play anything. But when I say ok lets do an AM, F, G jam, they go, 'ok but what notes should I play?' And I go NO!, you know what notes go there, just use them.... but they can't do it."

Most of us, as guitarists, do both. We compose lots of stuff, and learn others stuff too. Some more than others, to each his own.

Originally posted by ketsueki15
What exactly do you mean classical musicians dont compose...Obviously bach beethoven, Segovia composed classical music...If not, then what did they do?
Im assuming that because im a musician i cant compose classical music..that whats im getting from your post

There is kind of a line between classical composers and classical musicians, although the composers are obviously musicians too, but in general the people who play the pieces in public dont write them. Segovia never(or very rarely) composed anything of his own... he played pieces by early guitar composers like Tarrega, and even Bach pieces(usually lute suites). Classical musicians tend to be classed as performers or composers, but its not a strict rule you understand. John Williams doesnt write his own music either, he just plays other peoples pieces too fast.

wow... for those just tuning in, that was the sound of my jaw dropping...

Amazing piece and performance. The muted section gave me goosebumps!

That is really amazing guitar playing...very impressive.

Paco de Lucia was also a child prodigy, winning flamenco guitar competitions at age 12, touring the world with a dance troup, and releasing his 1st album by age 15.
As far as Flamenco players not having the same finess as classical guitarists, a lot of that has to do w/the instrument and the technique involved. Flamenco guitars are made with a spruce top for a more Bitier sound. Plus, flamenco players will usually pick closer to the bridge and use a capo, again too achieve this crisp sound. Truth is, classical players are usually in awe of flamenco players right hand technique.
I have not been to the web site yet, going now.....

Yeah, she's like 21 or 22 now. I read the bio.

I don't know where anyone got the brain implant that told them that classical musicians today don't compose music. They only play other peoples music. That's one heck of a stereotype, and terribly wrong. Go search midiworld for 20th century composers and artists. And classical musicians were bad improvisers?? You should read up on Beethoven's lifestory. When he got to play for Mozart, he played a well-known piece and Mozart was impressed. Then Beethoven improvised, Mozart immediately left the room to go tell his guest that the "this child will give the world something to talk about". Even later Beethoven would challenge the great virtuosos of europe to improv. contest, where he would run them out of town. No one since has been as good at improvising as Beethoven, and he was a classical musician. Being able to improvise, compose, or whatever you do musically has more to do with the individual and what there goals are, not if your a classical musician. Well you all of a sudden can't improv. or write your own music.

Originally posted by noticingthemistake
I don't know where anyone got the brain implant that told them that classical musicians today don't compose music. They only play other peoples music. That's one heck of a stereotype, and terribly wrong. Go search midiworld for 20th century composers and artists.

Yeah, like Yanni or John Tesh!!! You tell 'em, NTM! You tell the world!

Originally posted by iamthe_eggman
Yeah, like Yanni or John Tesh!!! You tell 'em, NTM! You tell the world!

-Lol- :p

That's right beyatch!!!!

Originally posted by Leedogg
I couldn't tell if it was a woman, or a little boy. At any rate, I'm impressed. Does classical guitar require the most skill from a guitarist? Is it the most difficult discipline?

There is no most difficult genre of music to play.

There's a most easiest genre I'm sure, but somebody's always gonna take every genre to another level.

Easiest? That's somewhere between punk and doing Bush covers.

Those classical songs are so easy an 8 year old could play them...... :rolleyes:

:D

yeh i know its an old post...but...o well

those songs arent that easy..Grand Jota is a tough one and so is the paganini piece..grr I dislike that chinese girl

Originally Posted by: ketsueki15those songs arent that easy..Grand Jota is a tough one and so is the paganini piece..grr I dislike that chinese girl

it was a joke....... :rolleyes:

You know her being like 8 in those videos........jeez no one here canever take a joke........

Originally Posted by: MetaThose classical songs are so easy an 8 year old could play them...... :rolleyes:

I think this is an perfect example of bad and arrogant attitude. :mad:

Ps. I'm just joking, dude! ;) Ds.

Speaking of unbelievable, Az what happened to that clip of you wanking off with them sweeps at about 8458972 notes per second?

It probably made too many people go blind when they saw it.

:eek: