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W0rm
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12/27/2006 2:11 pm
Hello all. I'm going to start on this new world of music.
I want to buy a Guitar Pack but i don't know which one is better.
Right now I'm seeing Squier Electric Pack and Squier Squier Metal Pack

Should I buy one of those or another one ?
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12/27/2006 3:43 pm
If your just starting out both the squier and ibanez starter packs are ok, but honestly you might want to think about buying a used Mexi Strat and a cheap fender frontman amp to start out.

All depends upon budget but the low end stuff can be frustrating to get setup right. All in all, try before you buy. I have bought cheap stuff and loved it and expensive stuff and hated it.

Just returned a Marshall MG 30 for a cheaper Fender Frontman 25r. Marshall shoulda been better but everyones ear/tastes are different.

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12/27/2006 4:14 pm
If you're just beinning you're not going to know the difference between a good guitar and a bad one.... So just get whatever makes the most sense financially for yourself... As you start to play and learn more you can see whehter or not oyu want to stick with it... A lot of people go out and buy guitars thinking that it's so easy to learn... then they put it in the closet after they realize that it actually requires practice and some natural talent.... So don't buy anything too expensive... A Squire strat pack is the best place to start for most. So go ahead and pick up a Squire Strat pack.......... that's about as basic as you can get... I started on one of those and I still get mine out everynow and then and play with it...

Everyone has slightly different tastes when it comes to gear though. If you take a liking to the style of Fender guitars... don't let a Gibson-lover convince you otherwise... remember that music is about you... it's about your expression. It doesn't matter what someone else uses or recommends unless it's something that you like or are comfortable with. In the end it's your money and it's going to be your guitar... so get the one you want.

But any beginner guitar pack would be adaquet for you to learn on.
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12/28/2006 6:08 am
Yeah, aschleman perty much covered it, but to directly answer your last question...I'm not actually familiar with the metal pack, and which guitar it features, but I presume it has a humbucker pickup(s) instead of single-coils like the Strat. But unless you're a total headbanger and will play exclusively metal, you might find the single-coils a lil more versatile starting out. Of course, not that you can't play certain styles with either choice of pickups and guitar, just that they have differences that are generally preferred. So yeah, I'd say go with the Strat. And if you still have no idea what I'm talking about with pickups and such, just ask us or the guy you're gonna buy from at the music store. He'll prolly even demonstrate the difference in tones to you if you ask.
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12/28/2006 11:02 pm
Originally Posted by: W0rmHello all. I'm going to start on this new world of music.
I want to buy a Guitar Pack but i don't know which one is better.
Right now I'm seeing Squier Electric Pack and Squier Squier Metal Pack

Should I buy one of those or another one ?

Sometimes it's good to check into some lesser known brands, you might get more bang for your buck. You may find a Washburn or a Japanese made Jackson that might have better action (less effort when pressing down on the strings) or may hold tune longer than other brands. If you're serious about playing and want satisfaction from your hard labor, look into used gear. My first guitar was a used Hamer that I bought for $550.00 from Guitar Center on Sunset Blvd, back in 1978. I sounded better than most of my friends the first year with those Seymour Duncan pickups compared to their Hondo crap guitars. The downfall is that everybody wants to play your guitar.
My advice: Buy crap, play crap!!!!!! Save your money and buy something you want to play. It will be worth every penny and now you have to learn to play it.
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12/29/2006 6:13 am
I say get an Epiphone pack! Well that was more out of spite than anything aschleman. :p If you can go down to a guitar store and try the different options you have just to see what fits you best. A Squire is a great place to start as well. Just don't let some Fender lover come along and tell you what to get. In the end it's your money like he said. Keep your options open.
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12/29/2006 11:54 am
I traditionally recommend squire strats (the 'usual' 3 single coil ones) to anyone who asks me, but in the interests of balance, an Epiphone SG would also check the boxes.

At your point in the road, it's more about inspiration/vibe than how fine an instrument you get. You need something you want to pick up and play. The main thing for beginners on humbucker guitars like epiphones vs singles like squire is how the pickup and control layout interferes with your picking action. I find it near impossible to play a Les Paul properly because I keep hitting the top of the pickup with my pick and/or turning the volume down as I move my hand across the strings.

When you are doing the play tests, try more than one strat, and more than one epiphone or whatever - I played every Tele in the store before I decided on one... even if you can't 'play' yet, you'll know what you like or not even if you don't know why....

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12/29/2006 12:49 pm
Originally Posted by: magicninjaI say get an Epiphone pack! Well that was more out of spite than anything aschleman. :p If you can go down to a guitar store and try the different options you have just to see what fits you best. A Squire is a great place to start as well. Just don't let some Fender lover come along and tell you what to get. In the end it's your money like he said. Keep your options open.



Haha... He's saying the same thing I was trying to say... from the opposite point of view... Something a Fender man and a Gibson man can agree on.... A sign of the apocalypse?
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01/03/2007 5:35 pm
Well not knowing the budget. Like dvenetian said, buy crap, play crap. I am 36, been playing since I was 16. I had my share of crap guitars through the years! And i wish someone, like this site, had been around then to point me in the right direction. I bought a Schecter C-1 last year, that I love. And came across a Schecter Gryphon a few months ago that is really nice! The Gryphon is around $400 new. Maybe this might be an option.

EDIT: The Gryphon has a phenominal finish, dual HB's and coil tap!!
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01/03/2007 5:45 pm
The Schecter series guitars remain to be an anomoly to me... They seem to be one of the very very very few guitar manufacturers out there that price their guitars for far less than what people are willing to pay for them. The C-1 series is a great series of guitars... I wouldn't call it a beginner guitar at it's 400-600 dollar price tag but definitely a guitar that will keep and play for years even after you buy other guitars...

I'm still a firm believer in paying your dues... When I have kids they will play Fender Squires before they touch my USA Fender Strats. God forbid they take a liking to Les Pauls...... They might just find themselves being put up for adoption....

You say "buy crap, play crap"... Which is a term of measure for a guitar. With that I say: How does a child know how far a mile is until he actually walks one. If you have nothing to gauge a guitars quality on you have no idea what is a good guitar and a bad one. And they offer the cheapest avenue to learn the basics and to test the treacherous waters of learning the instrument. Because lets face it. Not everyone that wants to learn to play guitar follows through on it. Having a 400 dollar guitar sitting in the closet is a very poor investment.... And they're more likely to just sell the guitar than keep playing. With a cheap guitar they're more likely to keep it around and maybe they'll come back to it later on.
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01/03/2007 6:09 pm
Well yeah...you got a point there. I guess I was just looking back at myself. Thinking that IF I had had a better guitar starting out, I would have progressed faster or things would have been a little easier. But yeah, having a $400 guitar sitting there that the kid decided wasnt what he wants is not practical. I have never played a Mexi Strat.....always heard they didnt stay in tune very well. But that was years ago, maybe they have gotten better.

What do you mean that Schecter is one of a few brands that price their guitars far below what people are willing to pay for them? I wasnt saying that the C-1 is a beginners guitar by any means, even the Gryphon I dont think is one either. But the Gryphon is in the $375-$400 range. Which is realativily a cheap guitar. Not cheap quality wise, just financially!
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01/03/2007 7:26 pm
Originally Posted by: halo71
What do you mean that Schecter is one of a few brands that price their guitars far below what people are willing to pay for them?


Basically I'm saying that they're GREAT quality and playabilty for the price that they charge. So many guitar manufacturers grossly overprice their guitars *cough*Gibson*cough*Jackson*cough... It's nice to see a manufacturer like Schecter offering a guitar like the C-1 for an affordable price. Not everyone that plays guitar is willing to sever their right leg to afford a "high-end Gibson"... Even with Gibson "high-end" may not even mean "high-end"...

I was agreeing with you that Schecters are great guitars. My best friend and Co-Owner of my studio has a C-1 Classic in Natural Amber... it's a real nice guitar for a 650 USD price tag.
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01/03/2007 9:27 pm
lol....okay....guess I was having a tard moment there. I see what you are saying now.

Another guitar that is very affordable is the LTD line. These are a branch of ESP right? Another friend of mine bought one at a pawn shop for $200.00 It list for $325 new. Dont remember the model, but it was a great playing guitar. Even has EMG81's. Dont know if those are stock though.
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01/03/2007 9:44 pm
I hate you aschleman. :p Well my LP is highend for Gibson. So I guess I can't say much.
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01/04/2007 1:52 am
Originally Posted by: magicninjaI hate you aschleman. :p Well my LP is highend for Gibson. So I guess I can't say much.


You got yourself a nice looking Gibson... I admit!! :rolleyes:

It's fine for other people to like Gibsons.... but my children won't. hahaha!
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