Pet Peeves

Note I edited that to some stuff FROM nevermind, instead of AND. that was a silly mistake.

Originally Posted by: acapella rapemeI think all the points on this have been made that can, so back to the actual topic, one thing that really pisses me off is when people try to talk about bands they don't know anything about, like when people try to talk about Nirvana when all they ever heard is some stuff from Nevermind and possibly some In Utero singles. Most of these people know nothing about the band except that Kurt is dead, but they act like they actually know something about it. And this goes for many other bands as well. If you feel the same as me, you'll get this right away.

You mean scenesters? Scenesters in general blow.

Originally Posted by: Cryptic ExcretionsYou mean scenesters? Scenesters in general blow.

I'm not familiar with the term, but with a name that ends in "sters" they can't be good.

Originally Posted by: Cryptic ExcretionsI can't really speak for anyone else, but personally I've yet to be offended by your opinions. The thing that bugs me the most about your views is that they're exactly what you've just said they are. They're basisless. You have no reason to feel the way you do, you've not read into anything, you couldn't even explain it yourself why you think what you think. And it shows when you talk. You're right that a feeling can't be defended, but a feeling can be explored. If you look into it you might find that you don't actually believe in what you've been defending all this time. So here you sit, defending a certain view that very well might be supporting something that you don't want to support and you don't know this because you've never explored past pushing the 1 button on your phone to choose English.

On a side note... shouldn't you be working?

Cryptic, not all of my views are basisless. Most are based on religion. This one however, is just based on the fact that Im a redneck and I think people should speak English in American. Im really not a sensitive person, Im pretty ethnocentric, and to be honest I dont really care. But to say ALL my views are basisless is just plain untrue.

I work at a middle school in my colleges work study program and I just go and work whenever possible.

Originally Posted by: stacknyCryptic, not all of my views are basisless. Most are based on religion. This one however, is just based on the fact that Im a redneck and I think people should speak English in American. Im really not a sensitive person, Im pretty ethnocentric, and to be honest I dont really care. But to say ALL my views are basisless is just plain untrue.

I work at a middle school in my colleges work study program and I just go and work whenever possible.

Ok, whatever. Let's just keep this the thread Schmange intended it to be. You can always start a new one if you wanna keep talking about this.

Originally Posted by: earthman buckOk, whatever. Let's just keep this the thread Schmange intended it to be. You can always start a new one if you wanna keep talking about this.

That's what I've been TRYING to do! Now respond to my post, or make a new one! Pet peeves, people!

Well, apparently I started all this racial crap when I said that one of my Pet Peeves is having to choose English or Spanish on an ATM.....I apologize to all for getting everyone's panties in a wad...

I also want to say that my comment has nothing to do with race, it got turned into a racial thing, which is another one of my pet peeves. I don't care what race anyone is, I would have said the same thing if I had to choose English or French on an ATM.

One more thing, I have no problem with people speaking different languages, nobody is trying to keep Magicninja from passing on his heritage to his kids, you should do that Magic.....just don't take offense to stupid comments that a little mutt like me has to say and go off about racism.

well, this thread went downhill fast.

Originally Posted by: AkiraWow, no ****.

To be honest I think you ought to care, because it's not getting yourself anywhere.

Ohhhhhhhh, and its really stopped from getting wherever "anywhere" is. :rolleyes: Im suprised this thread made you lose respect for me Akira, cuz I never thought you respected me in the fisrt place. Shucks.

Originally Posted by: acapella rapemeI'm not familiar with the term, but with a name that ends in "sters" they can't be good.

Scene + sters = scenesters. I guess it's not as common of a term as I thought it was. Basically it refers to people that are involved in things for the image of being involved in it. Not that they actually know anything about it or really care. They just want to show everyone that they're involved in it.

Originally Posted by: stacknyCryptic, not all of my views are basisless. Most are based on religion. This one however, is just based on the fact that Im a redneck and I think people should speak English in American. Im really not a sensitive person, Im pretty ethnocentric, and to be honest I dont really care. But to say ALL my views are basisless is just plain untrue.

I just don't get the mentality that you operate on.

JFrick: Not really your fault and I understand it wasn't racial. I wouldn't however post anything to do with race unless I was defending someone. I don't just defend my race either. There was a thread where I had a go at 6strngs for some comments about Asians. I think it diminishes you as a human being if there is anything that bothers you about a certain race, Especially in America where we have no identity. I'm sure the world views us as white. Every President and diplomat we've ever had was white. However anyone who lives here know Americans are black. white, brown, asian, indian, etc. We are the world. Fighting amongst ourselves over something as tactless as color of skin over content of character is outright stupidity and will be our downfall. Has it come so far where we cant handle pushing 1 for English and 2 for Spanish? God, I hope not. The essential fabric on which our country was founded was that ALL men are created equal. If we as the young generation cannot adhere to that value then why do we continue to live? Should we pass these ideas to our children to have them continue the mistakes we as a society has made for hundreds of years. When does it end. It is a bit idealistic to believe it can end with us. However if we can convince a few people like stackny to be more tolerant then we have succeeded. Because he will pass his values to his kids and so on and so on until the idea of racism is stricken from our vocabulary. Will it take time? Sure it will but it is a goal that requires our full attention. Once we get over that hill humanity can focus on the important thing. Keeping our species alive. Killing eachother over egocentric political and religious agendas needs to be eradicated or the future of humanity is doomed.

Vote for Pedro.

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You should run for Prez, ninja. Of course, I won't be able to vote, being Canadian and all. But if you win, I'll defect to the States. ;)

Am I racist? Hell no. The day you hear me telling my kids that the white race is superior to another race is a nonexistant day. I just see it as common courtesy of adapting the basic ways of a country when you move to it for your benefit. Nothing more.

Racism is when you see your race as superior to others. I do not. I may look at, for instance, Muslims and judge the motive of their terrorist attacks according to what our society and my religion determines as right or wrong without trying to further understand because I believe murder is wrong. Thats ethnocentrism. Ethnocentrism is inevitable if you hold any set law of moral standards such as the laws that the Bible tells us to obey.

Originally Posted by: stacknyAm I racist? Hell no. The day you hear me telling my kids that the white race is superior to another race is a nonexistant day. I just see it as common courtesy of adapting the basic ways of a country when you move to it for your benefit. Nothing more.

Racism is when you see your race as superior to others. I do not. I may look at, for instance, Muslims and judge the motive of their terrorist attacks according to what our society and my religion determines as right or wrong without trying to further understand because I believe murder is wrong. Thats ethnocentrism. Ethnocentrism is inevitable if you hold any set law of moral standards such as the laws that the Bible tells us to obey.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ethnocentric
eth·no·cen·trism Pronunciation Key (thn-sntrzm)
n.
Belief in the superiority of one's own ethnic group.
Overriding concern with race.

For Christ's sake, make up your own goddamn rules in life. You don't need some dogma telling you what your stance is on everything. If you don't feel racist thoughts then don't claim to be ethocentric because you think your bible is making that impossible. It makes absolutely no sense. We are God's creation, yet at the same time he wants us to feel superior over another race? Even though he sent Jesus to tell everyone how he loves us equally? Where's the logic? Who ever said God works in mysterious ways wasn't kidding.

Definition from my Sociology textbook of ethnocentrism:

"Ethnocentrism is the tendency to judge other cultures exclusively by the standards of one's own."

That being said, I know murder is wrong, so Im not going to try to see it from the Muslims eyes to why its wrong. I actually do understand why, because the Koran says to wage war on the infidels aka everyone who isnt Muslim.

There is no superiority here. By my definition of ethnocentrism there isnt anyways. If your definition is correct, then Im not ethnocentric.

Originally Posted by: stacknyDefinition from my Sociology textbook of ethnocentrism:

"Ethnocentrism is the tendency to judge other cultures exclusively by the standards of one's own."

That being said, I know murder is wrong, so Im not going to try to see it from the Muslims eyes to why its wrong. I actually do understand why, because the Koran says to wage war on the infidels aka everyone who isnt Muslim.

There is no superiority here. By my definition of ethnocentrism there isnt anyways. If your definition is correct, then Im not ethnocentric.

Ah, well, I dunno. Here I was seeing ethnocentrism being thrown around like a hot potato and wondering where the racism wasn't at only to be confronted with a differing definition. Dictionary or textbook. I dunno.

Originally Posted by: magicninjaJFrick: Not really your fault and I understand it wasn't racial. I wouldn't however post anything to do with race unless I was defending someone. I don't just defend my race either. There was a thread where I had a go at 6strngs for some comments about Asians. I think it diminishes you as a human being if there is anything that bothers you about a certain race, Especially in America where we have no identity. I'm sure the world views us as white. Every President and diplomat we've ever had was white. However anyone who lives here know Americans are black. white, brown, asian, indian, etc. We are the world. Fighting amongst ourselves over something as tactless as color of skin over content of character is outright stupidity and will be our downfall. Has it come so far where we cant handle pushing 1 for English and 2 for Spanish? God, I hope not. The essential fabric on which our country was founded was that ALL men are created equal. If we as the young generation cannot adhere to that value then why do we continue to live? Should we pass these ideas to our children to have them continue the mistakes we as a society has made for hundreds of years. When does it end. It is a bit idealistic to believe it can end with us. However if we can convince a few people like stackny to be more tolerant then we have succeeded. Because he will pass his values to his kids and so on and so on until the idea of racism is stricken from our vocabulary. Will it take time? Sure it will but it is a goal that requires our full attention. Once we get over that hill humanity can focus on the important thing. Keeping our species alive. Killing eachother over egocentric political and religious agendas needs to be eradicated or the future of humanity is doomed.

Vote for Pedro.

I said what I needed to here, everyone has said thier piece. Let's just let it go now. stackny I do not believe you are a racist but are as intolerant as anybody I've met. You are going to be a very grumpy old man someday. Cryptic right on I'm glad you're on board with us on this one. let's let go now it's played itself out.

Maybe ethnocentric isnt the right word. I should understand why they came upon the ideas they have but I shouldnt necessarily see them as good or just reasons. Its kinda hard to find the motive of an action if you arent willing to look at the reason it was commited..... So yeah, bad word choice on my part.

Originally Posted by: magicninjaI said what I needed to here, everyone has said thier piece. Let's just let it go now. stackny I do not believe you are a racist but are as intolerant as anybody I've met. You are going to be a very grumpy old man someday. Cryptic right on I'm glad you're on board with us on this one. let's let go now it's played itself out.

Yeah. I'm gonna go ahead and resign from this debate. All the points and views have been expressed already and this debate wasn't as fun as the age ol' relgion debate. Cheers guys.