Phrasing???

What is phrasing? Pentallica metioned it ina post and since then its been bugging me. He said you can play something like 10h9 and depending on the way u play it you can make several differnt sounds, at least thats what i got from it, can someone please explain this in more depth?

Phrasing is just what it says. It's the way the guitar player "phrases" a lick or riff.

Like for example, take Slash's solo of November Rain. The beginning is played with bends over and over. Now, I could just sit here and bend the string over and over, but it wouldn't sound anything like Slash. The way he phrases those bends is what's special about the solo.

Do you get what I'm saying?

yea but what does he do that makes it sound differnt? a bend is a bend right? i didnt think u could make it sound differnt from someone elses bend.

Originally Posted by: x0o_BurnOut_o0xyea but what does he do that makes it sound differnt? a bend is a bend right? i didnt think u could make it sound differnt from someone elses bend.

You can't tell the difference? Try playing that November Rain solo and see if you can get close to sounding like Slash after a few minutes. It's just a few simple bends, but it's how he makes those bends sound that make it unique.

You can bend notes slowly, you can bend them fast, you can add vibrato before/after.

Phrasing is just like a way a guitarist speaks. I can speak notes one way, while others may speak those notes another way.

Any closer to getting it?

Here is the correct definition:

Phrasing - Music. The manner in which a phrase is rendered or interpreted.

to say

yea but what does he do that makes it sound differnt? a bend is a bend right? i didnt think u could make it sound differnt from someone elses bend.

is like saying a hand is a hand they are no different, whilst its true that they look the same and are used in the same way each persons hand is different to someone else's. just playing the same notes as someone will not produce the same sound, similar yes but not the same. many guitarists use different kinds of vibrato for instance and this can shape a notes sound greatly. you just have to listen and compare.

phrasing is just the choice of notes you use. Just like the phrasing of sentences i could write "I am very cool" or i could phrase it differently like "Very cool i am" its the same thing just with notes instead.

Hopefuly this will make sense....
A phrase is kind of like a section or "phrase" that makes up the song. You can think of a song as a single entitie, but it's made up or composed of any number of smaller entities. Each phrase may or may not have a different playing style to it. Phrasing refers to how each individule section or phrase is played, hence the name phrasing.
If I didn't make any sense to you, don't worry it, it happens all the time. I'll be more than happy to clarify myself if anyone needs it.

Phrasing is basicly putting everything about u into that one note or succession of notes... u could sit there and play like a robot and play some good solo's that people will listen too, but play those same notes with phrases and u have something that makes people sit up and listen and remember...

phrasing is basically the timing or the style of the way you play the notes. Take for instance b-3--5. Try to figure out how many different ways you can play those two notes. Try them slow, try them fast, try bending one note to the next or sliding or ammering on. That's phrasing. Once you get proficient in improvising, you can combine all these elements in your solos. Watch for instance Al di Meola when he solos. He is one of the masters of phrasing. Watch the timing of the notes the way he plays them. that's what phrasing is. You can play the same notes, bu if you phrase them differnt, you can al's solo sound totally different. hope this helps.

I get the part where phrasing makes it sound differnt, and you say you can bend it to "phrase" it but that would be changing it, you have a A---5-7- and you bend the note on the 5th fret it wouldnt be the same, it would be A--5b-7--, i understand how differnt guitars can make two notes sound different and therefore effect how far you can go with replicating a song but idk ive lost myself.Oh look! i found the map! i guess i understand how you can make it sound differnt better cause i was thinking it was like idk hitting it a differnt way 943857-9756 differnt times but yeah thanks :)

Originally Posted by: Jimmi431to say


is like saying a hand is a hand they are no different, whilst its true that they look the same and are used in the same way each persons hand is different to someone else's. just playing the same notes as someone will not produce the same sound, similar yes but not the same. many guitarists use different kinds of vibrato for instance and this can shape a notes sound greatly. you just have to listen and compare.

phrasing is just the choice of notes you use. Just like the phrasing of sentences i could write "I am very cool" or i could phrase it differently like "Very cool i am" its the same thing just with notes instead.

Yes I like that analogy. You could also say that everyone's handwriting is different. So when you see two identical sentences copied out both are different in style and pattern