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MikeP.
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09/03/2002 7:07 pm
I may get flamed for this but I don't care. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE! NOTHING! IF you work hard enough you can be just as good if not better than the most awsome guitarist in the world. Having a mindset that you can't only sets you up for failure..

I hear people say you can't be as good as Hendrix, Rhoads, Malmsteen, etc., etc. BULL****! Those same people are human beings and are not super beings.

Ok flame away..but you'll never ever change my mind.
I started learning guitar because of Randy Rhoads..but Yngwie J. Malmsteen is my biggest influence.
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09/04/2002 4:02 am
all I can say is try it...
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09/04/2002 5:47 am
That's exactly what I'm aspiring to do (With my influences but with my own voice) :-) And I'm not too far off from my goals. How much longer will it take?....who kows. I suppose I'll never be satisfied no matter how good I may be or will be. (Don't misread that last line as me saying I'm good or great...intepret as what I aspire to do)
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09/05/2002 5:40 pm
Actually , he never learnt the 'normal' ones.
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09/05/2002 5:50 pm
Well, in the REH tapes, he said he started with 4 notes per strings ones because that's how you play them on a violin. Maybe he said different things in different interviews (a french mag is specialized in this)
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09/05/2002 6:14 pm
I'd have to disagree with you aiwass about alternate picking being the most difficult technique to master unless of course you've gone most of your guitar playing years only using downstrokes and it's ingrained in your reflexes.

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09/05/2002 6:21 pm
That does remind me...the hardest technique at least for me is playing with my teeth...but then again I've never really tried to practice it seriously. :-)
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09/05/2002 6:37 pm
OMG! Another Shawn Lane fan! Awsome guitar player. I met and got to see him perform live at Musician's Institute (G.I.T.) on Hollywood and McCadden wich I attended for the 1 year program. It was a very humbling experiance...I went home that day a fan :-)
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09/05/2002 6:51 pm
yes I met him and about a ton of other professional musicians while attending G.I.T. Met a couple a week when pro's would give seminars
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09/05/2002 6:53 pm
also met a bunch at the Rainbow (Where I would be almost every Friday or Saturday night) The Whiskey, and Troubador.
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09/05/2002 6:55 pm
I also met Jeff "The Skunk" Baxter at place called The Diamond club (Now no longer in existance) where I played a game of Pool with him and he kicked my butt at it.

It was located on the corner of Hollywood BLVD and Labrea
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09/07/2002 2:59 pm
Originally posted by aiwass
Then there's always an old shawn lane trick that I use for warming up my left hand and hybrid picking: One-note-per-string scales. There's really no trick to it. It just involves huge stretches and grouping the strings into threes. [/B]


I know I've already asked Herve for an example but I sodding lost it, does anyone have any example? I have two shawn lane albums and am bloody impressed despite being very accustomed to shred.
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09/07/2002 3:09 pm
Allan Holdsworth got bored with regular scales, and made new scales with respective chords using a self-made algebraic formula.... [/QUOTE]

Huh? That sounds interesting, Can you tell me more please?
I'm always looking for new scales. I've made a big table sorting out how similar different scales are according to how many notes can be made to overlap from different scales. This way you can move from one scale to another only changing one note at a time by picking intermediate scales that share all but one note. It took ages and was mega dull but I'd like to share the results with you guys so go to my brother's website, click on friends, then Andrew F. and then scale resources or something. I have about 40 scale forms in there.

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09/07/2002 3:37 pm
Well, take the chromatic scale, 12 notes. Make the 5 notes scales, you have the major, the minor, and the hybrid ones. Some aren't really interesting, while others can be found in some countries repertoire.
Then, the 6 notes (the blues scale is in this one)
the 7 notes (major, minor, and the modes, among others)
the 8,9,10,11 notes, then back to chromatic.

Then you have the scales that are larger than an octave. (say you play a note in the first octave, and you don't in the other one) that leaves of bunck of possibilities.

Allan's amazing job is to actually play the CHORDS of those scales, in unplayabale voicings, (up to 8 cases stretches) they are quite dissonant, but after a while, when you get used to them, they are way more emotionally powerful than standard scales.
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09/08/2002 1:05 am
"(up to 8 cases stretches) they are quite dissonant, but after a while, when you get used to them, they are way more emotionally powerful than standard scales. [/B][/QUOTE]"

sorry man but what do you mean by 8 cases? do you mean over 8 frets, that must be hideously difficult!
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09/08/2002 1:53 am
"Emotionally more powerful"

Sorry it's just a matter of oppinion...NOT FACT!
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09/08/2002 10:07 am
Originally posted by MikeP.
"Emotionally more powerful"

Sorry it's just a matter of oppinion...NOT FACT!


Music IS a matter of opinion. If you weren't born in the western world and attended GIT, you'd think that a derbouka's solo carried emotions greatly. Or that 12 notes aren't enough to express yourself.
I think that Allan's playing reaches places that we aren't used to go and listen to, and even though we can't really say the first time we listen to it 'wow, that's beautiful', we still are attracted to it because we can hear it power and emotions. But I guess that some will say it sucks, and other think that it's totally dissonant. Matter of opinion, not fact.
If facts ruled the world, 'Guitar world' wouldn't put Meredith Brooks on its cover, and Hendrix every other issue (because he's dead, that's a FACT).
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09/08/2002 10:10 am
Originally posted by u10ajf
sorry man but what do you mean by 8 cases? do you mean over 8 frets, that must be hideously difficult!


Yes, it was 8 frets (we say cases ir frets in french). And yes, Allan's music is the most difficult thing I have ever tried to play. I have never witnessed anyone that was able to play one of his intros (mostly chords in them, played with a swell and delay setting, that makes them sound like violins). He is a true monster.
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09/08/2002 10:13 am
I think that Lane was influenced greatly by holdsworth, even though Lane's style is much more flamboyant and flashy.
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