what order for effects?


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08/16/2006 2:51 pm
i've just splashed out on a load of pedals and i'm mounting them to a pedalboard. I was just wondering whether it makes that much difference which order i link them in? Is there an order which would make the most of my pedals? The pedals i have are:

Boss Blues driver (overdrive)
Dunlop CryBaby (wah)
Boss Super Chorus
Carl martin Red Repeat (delay)
Electro Harmonix (Phaser)
Danelectro Metal (distortion)
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08/16/2006 2:59 pm
I'm "tech guy" but I do know that I read somewhere that you should put your wah before any of your effects (which is what I do) and try to keep the chorus, delays etc in the middle and dist at the end.

I don't use many myself just Wah, Chorus, and Dist. for live playing and use the amp reverb. They are in that order.

Something about the wah acting on the gtr signal first prior to the effects, if reversed it tends to get muddy (too many signals for the wah or something) sort of the same with the dist. Something about the chorus and delays muddying up the distortion if they come after.

I'm sure someone here knows more and can explain it better. Nice topic BTW.
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08/16/2006 3:52 pm
I agree with jimmy! But If you just want to see how the pro do it go to this site. www.guitargeek.com
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08/16/2006 3:58 pm
Originally Posted by: ROCK ON

Boss Blues driver (overdrive)
Dunlop CryBaby (wah)
Boss Super Chorus
Carl martin Red Repeat (delay)
Electro Harmonix (Phaser)
Danelectro Metal (distortion)


I would probably go something like this...

Guitar > Wah > Chorus > Phaser > Delay > Distortion > Amp

If you use a lot of delay in your effects... for soloing and such you can switch the delay and the distortion to get a cleaner distortion in your delay... Otherwise the distortion will also add some noise to your distortion...

The way that I suggest doing a pedal board is by grouping the pedals that go in certain postions... Start out with your guitar hooked to your wah... then try these combinations

Gtr > Wah > Chorus > Phaser > Amp
Gtr > Wah > Phaser > Chorus > Amp

See which one sounds best for you... then move onto the next combo

Gtr > Wah > {Chrs > Phsr} > Delay > Distortion > Amp
Gtr > Wah > {Chrs > Phsr} > Distortion > Delay > Amp

And see which one of those sounds best...
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08/16/2006 4:22 pm
phaser before wah
http://users.chariot.net.au/~gmarts/fx-order.htm
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08/16/2006 4:26 pm
Boss Blues driver (overdrive)
Dunlop CryBaby (wah)
Boss Super Chorus
Carl martin Red Repeat (delay)
Electro Harmonix (Phaser)
Danelectro Metal (distortion)

i would suggest...
Electro Harmonix (Phaser)
Dunlop CryBaby (wah)
Danelectro Metal (distortion)
Boss Blues driver (overdrive)
Boss Super Chorus
Carl martin Red Repeat (delay)

i have the EH phaser before my crybaby and it works well but that is just a matter of taste...then compressor/sustainer-distortion-chorus-noise gate-delay
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08/17/2006 7:15 pm
This is how I would do it.....

Guitar > Wah > Overdrive > Distortion > Amp
(OD and Distortion can be swapped)

Then through the effects loop.

Delay > Chorus > Phaser

I've found that to my ears that the time based effects sound better through the loop.

If there is no effects loop on you amp.

Guitar > Wah > Overdrive > Distortion > Delay > Chorus > Phaser

In all honesty though, everyone does it differently. Just experiment and use what sounds best to your ears....
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08/17/2006 7:22 pm
yeah, frick said it well. I woulda said put the dirty stuff through the input. that will give you the tone you want. then puting the modulation and delay effects through the loop will give you the character you want.
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08/25/2006 1:34 pm
i have almost the same pedal rig as you do, and over time i've found the best combinations and tone come from Wah first, then distortion, then the flanger, phaser and chorus pedals it doesn't matter (try different combinations to find a personal preference) so long as they're in between the wah and distortion and the delay, which should be at the end of the chain
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08/25/2006 7:35 pm
Just remember that by putting the delay at the end, the phaser and/or flanger will be delayed and will cause a strange unpredictible tone b/c the effects are being delayed, if that makes sense......

Take a flanger for example, the sound kinda moves (don't know how to describe it, but you know what I mean) and that "movement" is in a different place each time it is delayed. This can cause a weird sound...

If someone knows what I'm talking about and can better explain, please translate this....
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08/30/2006 7:41 pm
There's an article in Guitar Player magazine that explains the best path to take. If I remember right (I'll search thru my library when I get a chance for the particular issue) distortion should be near the end, as someone said before, because it tends to overwhelm most other effects placed behind it.

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08/31/2006 10:28 pm
Time based effects such as chorus, delay, flanger, reverb usually go behind the wah and distortion. Doing it the other way around cuts down on clarity quite a bit.(unless of course you're going for this kind of sound)
The order you put those time based effects should be in depends on whatever sound you're trying to achieve. In other words, experiment a little bit and see what works best.
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09/02/2006 8:51 pm
hy, I'm Ivana and I'm from Croatia (Europe) .. I don't know english very good but I understand some words.. I love guitar very much and I'm very sad because I don't understand a lot of words so I cant read everithing what you right .. have a fun!
p.s. my english is very bad so don't laugh
p.p.s. now I will say hy on Croatia: pozdravljam sve vas ovdje drage ljude!
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09/09/2006 9:54 pm
Hey found the article in guitar player the other day (then lost it again, so I don't know what month). It basically says: Wah first, tone shaping, (chorus, flange, phaser, etc.) in the middle, and distortion at the end of the chain.
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09/10/2006 5:54 am
Originally Posted by: chinehy, I'm Ivana and I'm from Croatia (Europe) .. I don't know english very good but I understand some words.. I love guitar very much and I'm very sad because I don't understand a lot of words so I cant read everithing what you right .. have a fun!
p.s. my english is very bad so don't laugh
p.p.s. now I will say hy on Croatia: pozdravljam sve vas ovdje drage ljude!

hello Ivana ...krunek is from croatia as well...if you get together you 2 can talk your croatian buns off ;)
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09/11/2006 8:19 am
Originally Posted by: z0s0_jphello Ivana ...krunek is from croatia as well...if you get together you 2 can talk your croatian buns off ;)


True, true... Hey, this is so cool... we could gossip about you guys on forums and you wouldn"t even know about it... hehehe. :p ;)
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09/12/2006 6:08 am
except i have a secret decoder ring.....well, i guess it isn't secret now :mad:dammit!!!
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09/12/2006 8:22 am
Originally Posted by: z0s0_jpexcept i have a secret decoder ring.....well, i guess it isn't secret now :mad:dammit!!!


Yeah, yeah... my grandmother"s name is also Agatha... :D
I sent a message to Joanna, if she needs any help on GT to contact me.
It is nice knowing I am not the only Croat here...
Hey, Z? Since you have a secret decoder ring...
Ti si sasvim u redu tip. Dapače. Baš si frajerčina teška. Eto. :D
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09/12/2006 3:27 pm
the ring says c)
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09/12/2006 5:47 pm
Originally Posted by: z0s0_jpthe ring says c)


One ring to rule them all and in the darkness binds them... But they were all of them deceived... hehe. Out of my memory, but something like that ;) . I wrote:
Ti si sasvim u redu tip. Dapače. Baš si frajerčina teška. Eto.
You are quite ok guy. Indeed. You are a real hot shot. There.

Z, you better change your ring... Cause, you know, the ring of power has the will of its own... :D ;)
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