Is anyone else tired of nonsense posting?


Lordathestrings
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[font=trebuchet ms]I tried to move part of a thread that got off-topic but was turning into a good discussion about some of the useless gibberish that sometimes appears in the threads here. I apologize to anyone whose posts were lost. This new thread is a place to resume that discussion about the yep thread and some of the spill-over.




That particulat thread got started when someone was trying to reply to something else. The sillyness exploded from there. It serves as a vent for some of the insanity, but it's counter-productive when other threads get infested with useless posts. I think it's important to bear in mind what the word "discussion" means. In this particular part of the forum (Open Discussion), it's normal for the topic to drift, just as it would in a conversation. Posts should contribute to clarifying understanding of a topic, or at least defining your position on a matter of opinion.[/font]
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Jolly McJollyson
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Originally Posted by: Lordathestrings[font=trebuchet ms]This new thread is a place to resume that discussion about the "yep" thread and some of the spill-over.[/font]

I thought the "yep" thread was a lot of fun. However, I thought the nonsense should have stayed contained in that thread.
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I agree that the threads often get off topic, but what can you do??

People just want to post something, if not anything, so that's usually how it happens.

I'll try to keep my nonsense in my own threads, but it's hard! That damn ADD.

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[font=trebuchet ms]Ture enough. You and I have had some memorable exchanges, and I hope that continues. I just want people to understand that nonsense should be kept out of the other parts of the forum.

I have no problem with the way that threads drift of topic eventually. Normal conversation usually 'moves on' after the initial topic seems to have been covered. It would be better to start a new thread, but I can understand that it's easier to just keep on going.

And after my recent disaster trying to split a thread, I can understand a certain reluctance to try that again.[/font]
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Jolly McJollyson
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Originally Posted by: Pantallica1*Off Topic*
Jolly, I'm in the chat if you care to join me!
/end *Off Topic*

would, but I don't have the program on this comp...I'm home for the week.
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Originally Posted by: Pantallica1I agree that the threads often get off topic, but what can you do??

People just want to post something, if not anything, so that's usually how it happens.

I'll try to keep my nonsense in my own threads, but it's hard! That damn ADD.

*Off Topic*
Jolly, I'm in the chat if you care to join me!
/end *Off Topic*

There's a difference between a thread going off-topic (you were originally talking about fishing and it goes into what kind of truck your dad used to hunt), and just posting junk (someone says "i had some great bananas today", someone else replies "some great bananas today were had" and someone else replies "these fish are rotten!!!")

I have brutal ADD and I watch crap like this and laugh my arse off... hard. but at the same time, not everyone wants their life to play out like an episode of Monty Python, so, let's keep it to a minimum. or at least be smart about it.
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Originally Posted by: Pantallica1... People just want to post something, if not anything, so that's usually how it happens.

I'll try to keep my nonsense in my own threads, but it's hard! ..
[font=trebuchet ms]I don't have a problem with zany posts. I've been known to put up quite a few myself.

I'd just like to keep the craziness in certain threads in Open Discussion, so that when people ask questions in the rest of the forum, they don't have to wade through a bunch of crap to get to the answers they need.[/font]
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Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonwould, but I don't have the program on this comp...I'm home for the week.


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Anyways, at least the nonsensical posts stick to the open discussion, and don't really wander into the other areas of the site. That's why I don't have that many posts and I've been here damn near 5 years. I only reply when I have something useful to add to the discussion.
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yeah I think there is a lot of junk posted on the forum... for example..the Classical B.S thread were a guy was askin if there were any ol' fashion classical guitarist out there..the first page was...eh ok...but the next two pages were just retarded... people started making stupid jokes about the anus and how "the anus produces the best soundin classical music" or "Won't even ask how you get your business done!!......unless....you are really a robot.......a giant fighting robot." Its stupid gibberish like that annoys me
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I personally don't mind when the topic changes, just so long as I get an answer to my question in the process. If I get guidance then letting the topic go where it goes is the least I can do to return the favor. Besides, it's kind of inevitable. Someone makes an "anal retentive" joke then the conversation shifts to bowel movements. Personally I've got a sense of humor from the bathroom so I'm gonna laugh and participate most likely.
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Originally Posted by: Lordathestrings[font=trebuchet ms]And after my recent disaster trying to split a thread, I can understand a certain reluctance to try that again.[/font]

I was wondering where it went. I went to go take a shower, and when I came back…..it was gone. haha no biggie though. I'll try to recapture what I said.

I wonder if the reason that the threads go way off topic is due to the very fact that this is a site for guitar players/musicians. I assume that a good portion of the people who use this site (members, users, or guests) are at least semi musical, and tend to be a little more creative than your average non instrument playing, or artistic person…..generally speaking. In the last 6 months or so, I have really noticed a difference in the way my mind thinks and functions (with ADD), compared to most other people with out it. (I still think it’s the greatest disorder in the world!) More creative people tend to think in a non-linear manner. This non linear thinking is the reason that such a high percentage of artist, CEO’s, entrepreneurs……and prison inmates all have ADD. Not saying that everyone at GT does, but I know at least a few do.
Its great to talk about absolutely nothing in the open discussion forum, I have done it many a times, but I think it could be cooled down a bit in the other forums.
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:mad: You all shutup now!You think this is a joke?Life is frigin serious!I swear,one more nonsense post and everyones gonna get it.Keep to the subject and maintain a focused approach.Answer peoples question when they ask immediatly...

I'm sick of the malarky on the forum...go to another forum to post junk.Either be responsible,accurate and upright and serious or don't post at all.We don't need jokers around here.Get out if you don't like it.Every aspect of guitar is serious and the open forum is no different.Keep all discussions civilized and mature.Anything resembling nonsense will be ignored.

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Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheart:mad: You all shutup now!You think this is a joke?Life is frigin serious!I swear,one more nonsense post and everyones gonna get it.Keep to the subject and maintain a focused approach.Answer peoples question when they ask immediatly...

I'm sick of the malarky on the forum...go to another forum to post junk.Either be responsible,accurate and upright and serious or don't post at all.We don't need jokers around here.Get out if you don't like it.Every aspect of guitar is serious and the open forum is no different.Keep all discussions civilized and mature.Anything resembling nonsense will be ignored.

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Originally Posted by: alucard0941sorry guys...I will be serious now on :(
[font=trebuchet ms]No need to get bummed about it. And no, I'm not saying every post has to be exactly on topic. And I don't mean for people to feel that they have to be serious all the time. We just need to give a bit of thought to whether what we're about to post is actually gonna be useful to somebody who's asking for some help.

I think that creative playfulness is a good thing. It's definitely something a lot us have, and I think the Open Discussion section of the forum is a good place for us to enjoy that.[/font]
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Originally Posted by: PonyOne(someone says "i had some great bananas today", someone else replies "some great bananas today were had" and someone else replies "these fish are rotten!!!")[/QUOTE]

That is a great assessment of how so many threads go these days, the quality of posts isn't what it used to be. There seems to be a great deal more crap to sift through to get to something actually worth reading.

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Its not that there should be only serious posts, but there needs to be a little discretion. After reading Akira's "good bye for a week" thread, I hope some people can relate to this analogy.....God help me!!
So, pornographic websites. I’d be lying if I said I never went to one. Don’t now, I just don’t need that in my life (not the focus of this post though). So anyways, its great to see boobies and whatnot on an adult website, but do you like all that filler stuff….the “join now for free XXX” or all the good stuff covered up or fuzzed out. No, you want to see some nice luscious boobs! Same principal as what is trying to be said in this thread, only less boobies. Besides the Open Discussion forum, we need a little less “filler” discussion, which, imo, hasn’t been that bad till the yep thread in the guitar basics section. That thread was amazing though!
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Well there have been many new users on the board latley.People with over 100 posts and have been here for less than a month.Its not like this is some new issue...its happened before and it passes.Everyone moves on when the candle burns out and such nonsense threads are extinguished.

This is the only time ive seen anyone actually get upset about it...really,the only outcome by complaining about it is more foolish threads.Also,latley there has been many momentous "ive reached the 1000 post mark" celebration threads.I'm headed for a thousand very soon,but i'm not gonna make a thread lol.

Whatever...its a forum.Post stuff that you feel is relevant.I don't see too much outright 'jibberish'.Mabey I ignore such threads where I have no input.
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Originally Posted by: crazywolfI wonder if the reason that the threads go way off topic is due to the very fact that this is a site for guitar players/musicians. I assume that a good portion of the people who use this site (members, users, or guests) are at least semi musical, and tend to be a little more creative than your average non instrument playing, or artistic person…..generally speaking. In the last 6 months or so, I have really noticed a difference in the way my mind thinks and functions (with ADD), compared to most other people with out it. (I still think it’s the greatest disorder in the world!) More creative people tend to think in a non-linear manner. This non linear thinking is the reason that such a high percentage of artist, CEO’s, entrepreneurs……and prison inmates all have ADD. Not saying that everyone at GT does, but I know at least a few do.
Its great to talk about absolutely nothing in the open discussion forum, I have done it many a times, but I think it could be cooled down a bit in the other forums.[/QUOTE]
our roommate goes to art school with my g/f. she is a total artist in the way that she acts; she invites homeless people over, dresses in clothes that she got from goodwill that have absolutely nothing matching, thinks it's "awesome" and "beautiful" when people make total asses of themselves in public because they're so "free" and she thinks the hippies were the greatest group of people ever to roam the earth.

she also hasn't actually produced any "art" that wasn't mandated by her teacher in... three years? a lot of people who embrace this compeletely non-linear, stereotypically "alternative" way of doing things do not have ADD nor are they artists... they're just laughable. not saying that anyone here is; just saying it's frustrating, as someone who has ADD, when people who don't have it read or see or hear gibberish and hear it attributed to ADD and then hear I have it, they assume that if they say "oh man I had a great party last night" that I either will or will have the desire to say "yeah well I had a great MONKEY MONKEY last night!!! stork!" or something like that.

some of the crap that people here post up isn't ADD so much as it is tourette's. I have ADD; that means that when I get up in the morning and decide I want to go for a walk to the beach, on my way to my dresser I pick up my Strat and spend a half hour playing, then get dressed, and when i'm going to the fridge to eat breakfast, I see my Playstation and decide to play The Punisher. Then I remember, an hour later, I was gonig to the fridge, so I go, but the only thing that sounds good is caffeine, so, I drink some Coke, and then decide to go for a walk down to the beach and draw. on my way to get the bag with all my drawing supplies out of my room I stop to look at the magazine my roommate left out, and when I'm done with that, I get my bag, but then on my way out decide to grab a block of wood and some carving tools to practice my inlaying on.

That's ADD. Posting whatever comes off the top of your head regardless of its relevance has nothing to do with ADD; you can have 25 billion thoughts running through your head, but, you don't necessarily have to pick one of those thoughts and expend the effort to type it out just because it's there; that's a lack of self control.

[QUOTE=Leedogg]Dude that was hilarious. Twigger's mom is frickin' Kelly Kapowski hot!

check out the other Twigger's Holiday episodes. In Twigger 3, you discover that all the moms are strippers :D I love lines like "I hate you. I hate you more than church and learning!" and the "wooden leg" and "I hate reading" songs in Twigger 2. I swear, if you got a bunch of 8 y/o kids with ADHD in a room together and told them to come up with a show, this is it.
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Originally Posted by: chucklivesoninmyheartWhatever...its a forum.Post stuff that you feel is relevant.I don't see too much outright 'jibberish'.Mabey I ignore such threads where I have no input.

I don't think this thread was intended to start as a complaint. I made a comment in another thread to LATS, much like my first one in this thread, about why the discussions tend to drift so much....not that its a bad thing, but I was genuinely curious of why, wondering if the same kind of thing would happen in a forum about say enginering or for lawyers or something. It sounds like LATS tried to take a portion of that thread to make what would have been this one, but thanks to technology, couln't quite pull it off.
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