Marshall Valvestate

hey guys, long time no see.
I've seen this Marshal Valvestate at work, cant remember what model. But it has 2 x 12 speakers. 3 channels. 1 clean 1 overdrive and in build reverb. 100 watt. What price in UK you think a second hand one should be? Its in great condition. Priced at £290. Is it worth that???
Love the new look. Havent seen it I been away that long.

I have had 2 valvestates (poor me !) and man, if you want tube sound get a tube amp and if you want solid state sound, get a transistor amp !

hey Slasher, i think that is a good deal, but dr simon is right. Just get an all tube amp if you want the warm sound. Or just get a solid state. I dont see the point in valvestate amps... they just seem like a cheap crappy tube amp.
I think the tsl 150 is a valvestate amp. Maybe it was that !

Sounds to me like it's a VS102R, and the asking price seems to be about right for a second hand one in good condition.

The Valvestate does not have that "tube sound", but it's a great amp nonetheless. I used to have the VS100R, basically the same model as the VS102R, but with only one speaker. As long as you remember to dial in enough middle frequencies, it will sound great.

And people, he's asking for advice on a $350(that's about right ain't it?) amp, I seriously doubt he's in the market for an all tube amp...

PS: the VS series ARE transistor amps

Cheers guys.

OK Valve State is NOT a transistor amp, from the VS65R upwards they contain Hybrid Tube Transistor technology, I know I have owned TWO of them.

If you doubt me go to the Marshall website !
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http://www.marshallamps.com/images/archive/valvestate2.html
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VS65R

65 Watt Valvestate power stage into 1x12" speaker.

ECC83 [12AX7] pre-amp valve active on both channels.

Two seperate channels 'Clean' and 'Overdrive'.

Treble, Middle and Bass controls plus Tone Shift switch for tonal options on the

Clean channel.

Gain, Volume, Treble, Bass and dramatic Contour control on the Overdrive channel.

Built-in spring Reverb.

Headphone jack [which mutes the internal speaker].

Line Out jack for connection to external equipment.
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Further:
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The 100 Watt VS100R and VS102R combos, plus the VS100RH amp head are the first amps ever in their price category to offer 3 footswitchable channels and anECC83 [12AX7] valve in the pre-amp. This ensures the fullest possible helping of classic Marshall valve tone on all 3 channels.

These amps will give you incredible flexibility with tones from crystal clean to classic crunch, from brown and bluesy to big and brutal with selections for the Clean channel, Overdrive 1 channel and Overdrive 2 channel all available at the press of a switch.
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Second, thanks to dubuyu's dubious economic policies, the UK - US rate of exchange is about 2 dollars to the pound so you are looking at nearly 600 bucks !

Woa!!! The valvestate range is excellent slasher!! As a fellow slash fan its deal!! The AVT100 one I had was as good as my all valve TSL marshall head and cab.

Thanks Axl. Just what I was thinking. I had a play on it yesterday when I sold an Epi Les Paul to a guy n sounded really good.

On a constructive note, I have has a VS65R and a 30w VSII. I found the clean channel breaking up (not clean enough) and the dirty channel not dirty and heavy enough

Well I got a bos mt-2 so the dirty channel shoudn't be a problem

Originally posted by Dr_simon
OK Valve State is NOT a transistor amp, from the VS65R upwards they contain Hybrid Tube Transistor technology, I know I have owned TWO of them.

One pre-amp tube, and all transistor for the rest.... yup, still a transistor amp in my book... no matter what Marshall says, especially since the power stage is completely solid state. I hate it when companies try fooling their customers into buying an amp by marketing them with fancy names like "valvestate" ot "hybrid tube technology"...

I definitely was wrong in my calculation from pounds to dollar, how embarrassing... But just because 300 pounds gives you 600 dollars doesn't mean you can buy a 600 dollar amp in the UK for 300 pounds. :rolleyes:

If you like it then that is the only thing that really matters, however I'd ask if you can try it out for a week before you buy.

I used a plethora of, EQs, distortion boxes, compression sustainers, choruses, flangers, modelers, you name it. I eventually settled on a Pod pro which I am still using and love to bits.

Admittedly one of the worst things about the Marshall (and was my fault and not the amp) was that I wasn't in a place where I could really crank it and in total indifference to the valve pre, I wasn't getting a heavy enough tone from the dirty channel. Also the clean channel was distorting at really low volume which also was not what I wanted.

If I ever want a half / full-stack, Marshall will be one of my first ports of call but I will be looking for an all tube system !

OK that is my 2c, Im going to get off my soap box and stop ranting. Whatever you decide to do I hope you end up with an amp that suits you !

SPL dude, you can call anything, anything you like but it doesn't alter what it is !

Example: I have a small table, I eat of it and use it as a table. If I clear it of and put my feet on it, is it then a table or a foot stool !

You can start calling a chair a porcupine and that is fine, unless you wish to converse with people who don't call chairs porcupines, in which case you may end up standing up for rather a long time.

Thank you for the advice, dude.

The only reason why I am trying to make a point here is because two people in this thread come in saying things like "if you want a transistor amp, get a real transistor amp..." Essentially, a "true" transistor amp isn't any better than a transistor amp with one pre-amp tube in it, and vice versa. I guess I just didn't really understand the logic behind the advice that was being given. All he was asking is if it was a good price for that amp, which it is.

Cool man, what is "The LBC" ?

Originally posted by Dr_simon
Cool man, what is "The LBC" ?

Lyrics from "Doin Time" by Sublime
Summertime and the livin's easy
Bradley's on the microphone with Ras m.g.
all the people in the dance will agree
that we're well qualified to represent the LBC...

In other words, Long Beach.

Yeah, 1 day when I have a few grand to spare I want a full stack, prob a JCM head n 2 cabs.

Few grand? I just bought a second stack, a JCM900 half stack for £450! :) one word dood... ebay :D

Axl, with the exchange rates as they are you must stand to make a killing importing LPs !

Wow £450, good deal there man!!!
It is a VS102R and I have bought it. Got it for £250, as I work there. :)