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04/27/2006 4:56 am
I belive that I have found a mathematical code within the modes. It came to me when I heard that the order of scales and or modes was changed by western civilization.All you need is the My hypothesis and a pen and pencil. Not for the faint hearted. RTO :cool:
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04/27/2006 5:03 am
Originally Posted by: rightturnonlyI belive that I have found a mathematical code within the modes. It came to me when I heard that the order of scales and or modes was changed by western civilization.All you need is the My hypothesis and a pen and pencil. Not for the faint hearted. RTO :cool:

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04/27/2006 5:08 am
There I got one. Aren't u a little bit interested. U see Jolly yours is the exact type of response I feared I'd get. :)
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04/27/2006 5:12 am
Well, I mean, do you care to explain?
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04/27/2006 5:52 am
yes i'd love to. but i think I'll just mess it up so here goes it will take me some time since i type so porrly. I'll start with #1 if the c scale is built from whole and half steps, and these steps can be converted to a series of modes in c. Then there should be a predictable series of whole and half steps governing all modes. The same as differnt arraingments of whole and half steps govern the differnt scales M - m ect. RTO :cool:
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04/27/2006 5:55 am
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Sorry, I'm music-theory-challenged. :o I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you saying that you have discovered a "code" for the modes, or are you just saying that there should be one, and that somebody needs to figure out what it is?
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04/27/2006 6:00 am
I saying a simple thing . that once u memorize this bit of theoritical bull. U wil now where the whole and half steps occour in any mode.RTO
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04/27/2006 6:19 am
Well your half right.
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04/27/2006 6:31 am
Originally Posted by: rightturnonlythere should be a predictable series of whole and half steps governing all modes.

If by "should be" you mean "is" then you are correct.
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04/27/2006 6:33 am
now take the modes and put them in a differnt order (western civilization did, they changed what the greeks had).
NEW ORDER FOR MODES HALF STEPS
!&8 = LOCRAIN 1-2 & 4-5
2 = Phygrain 1-2 & 5 &6
3 = aeolian 2 -3 & 5- 6
4 = Dorian 2-3 & 6-7
5 = mixolydian 3-4 & 6-7
6 =Ionian 3-4 & 7-8
7 = Lydian 4-5 & 7-8
8 or 1- back to Locrian the beginning
Now try it out in any mode exp. D Locrain =C#D E F#G A B >1-2 & 4-5 and so on and on.

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04/27/2006 6:37 am
No, you're not crazy.

Major steps: 221-2221
Dorian steps: 212-2212
Phrygian steps: 122-2122

The order of steps just shifts, see? It's because they're all based around the same perfect octave base, just different steps to get to that octave. And yes, each mode has two half steps.
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04/27/2006 6:38 am
Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonIf by "should be" you mean "is" then you are correct.
How about there is ,trying to make the reader think :)
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04/27/2006 6:41 am
Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonNo, you're not crazy.

Major steps: 221-2221
Dorian steps: 212-2212
Phrygian steps: 122-2122

The order of steps just shifts, see? It's because they're all based around the same perfect octave base, just different steps to get to that octave. And yes, each mode has two half steps.
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04/27/2006 7:45 am
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04/27/2006 9:08 am
Originally Posted by: magicninjaWell your half right.
what do u mean 1/2 right :mad:
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04/27/2006 7:07 pm
Well, that is pretty true. There is math behind the scales and modes. as in whole and half steps and the modes build off of the 1st tone of the previous mode/scale. good job for figuring that out though!
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04/27/2006 7:19 pm
Originally Posted by: rightturnonlywhat do u mean 1/2 right :mad:

You don't have to memorize it for every key. You just have to memorize it in one key and then apply it to the rest. I guess I misspoke a little. You're right.
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04/27/2006 7:28 pm
Right i'm gonna go out on a limb here! i know i'm music theory challenged, and, i can see where the mathamatical code thing is comin from in terms of the pattern it forms, and, i've seen the same pattern in terms of the actual notes rather than maths (posted somewhere on this site) what i don't get is... what the ****does it all mean???? there are 7 musical notes right? 5 of which have a sharp variant (half step/half tone?) so whats with all these *****scales and modes we have to learn???? surely a solo is just about playin said notes or, some of, in a order/sequence that sounds good??!! :confused: :confused: like i said at the start i am music theory challenged but if any of you knowledgeable dudes can explain it in laymans terms i will be eternally gratefull :)
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04/27/2006 8:19 pm
Ther's only 2 kinds of music Good and Bad. Some people walk the walk and some just talk the talk. It's said that Dajango Reinhardt couldn't read a note, his music is still being studied after some 60-70 years. People threorize It and all but he played what was in his head, A music Icon since 1930. :)
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