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yes i'd love to. but i think I'll just mess it up so here goes it will take me some time since i type so porrly. I'll start with #1 if the c scale is built from whole and half steps, and these steps can be converted to a series of modes in c. Then there should be a predictable series of whole and half steps governing all modes. The same as differnt arraingments of whole and half steps govern the differnt scales M - m ect. RTO :cool: