little help

i have an blackstar ht5rw.my question is this,there is a power button and standby button,now i was told to turn on the stanby first wait 30 secounds then turn power on.now i was told to turn on power first then stanby.and for shutting down first stanby then power.i am petty sure stanby comes first then power ,cause isnt that the idea too warm up the tubes by turning on stby first....if any one can help resolve this it would be much appreciated.thanks too all...btw i am a first time user with an tube amp,.......and while i am at it would it be best when hooking up my wah pedal and dist pedal which one should be first,should i hook up my wah pedal too dist pedal or the other way....i am not using the effects loop ...

I have always turned a valve amp on in the standby setting then wait a min or two then full power on and then back onto standby before turning off.
As for the pedals I would run them with guitar-wah-distortion-amp.

Originally Posted by: axe2i am petty sure stanby comes first then power ,cause isnt that the idea too warm up the tubes by turning on stby first...

I think you've got it backwards, or your amp has the switches labeled backwards...

Fuzzbox is right... power on first... the tubes should start to glow (you have power to the amp) but no sound. Then after a bit, turn on the Standby switch so that you have sound. If you turn the Standby on first, then hit power, you're not allowing the tubes to warm up first, you're just going instantly to full "on" mode. You can tell if you're doing this because the amp will start really quiet, and then get louder as the tubes warm up.

the terminology with this is confusing. I found myself getting a little confused reading slipin's post since he said he agreed with fuzzbox but then seemed to contradict him.

Just to clarify in case other people are as dense as me - if the amp is in standby mode (i.e. standby mode turned on), there will be no sound to allow the tubes to warm up before being stressed. If the amp is out of standby mode (i.e. standby mode turned off), sound will come out of the amp.

On my amp (and perhaps yours is the same), the power and standby switches are side by side and you turn both of them up for sound. So for power, this means "on" is up, but for standby, "off" is up.

Perhaps a better way to think of it is "sound on/off" for the standby switch.

I start out with both power and standby down. First I flip the power switch on. Then I get myself situated with my guitar, cable, etc. and allow the tubes to warm up for a minute or 2. Then I flip the standby switch up. Powering down, I'll first flip the standby switch down and start putting my stuff away. By time time I'm done with that, the tubes will have cooled down a bit and then I flip the power switch down.


As an aside, this reminds me of hookswitch terminology with telephones. In the US, you go "offhook" (pick the phone up off the hook) to make a phone call. Howerver, in the UK and other places in Europe, you go "online" (still picking the phone off the hook) to make a phone call. On and Off can mean the same thing depending on who you are talking to :-).

Try finding your answer here..

http://www.retrevo.com/support/Blackstar-HT-5-Amps-manual/id/23860bh045/t/2/

From what I was able to read from another website, axe2 was told the proper way..

So what i understand turn on power and keep stby off then after a minute
Turn standby on..what i,have are power down for on stby down for on. Hope i got this such a little thing can be that confusing.lol.thank you all for your help.

Here is the quote direct from the handbook.


"13. Power Indicator Light
The power indicator will light when the amplifier is switched on.
14. Standby
This switch enables the operation of the power amp stage and speaker output.
Always turn this on at least 30 seconds after the Power switch (15). For silent
recording or practise this switch should be put in the standby position. This will
disable the power stage, but the emulated output will continue to work.
15. Power
This switch is used to turn the amplifier on and off. You should always turn this
switch on before turning on the Standby switch (14)."
Note--- There is a miss-spelling of practice. Not my bad!

Here is the link to the HANDBOOK

http://www.blackstaramps.com/pdf/handbooks/ht-5r-handbook.pdf

I hope this can get your head wrap around the solution. I know it help me.

Originally Posted by: maggiorthe terminology with this is confusing. I found myself getting a little confused reading slipin's post since he said he agreed with fuzzbox but then seemed to contradict him.

Maggior, I did not contradict Fuzzbox.

Fuzzbox said: "I have always turned a valve amp on in standby". This means that the amp is turned on, in other words, the amp has power, but is currently in "Standby" mode, which means it will not create any sound.

Fuzzbox then says: "then wait a min or two then full power on". In other words, take the amp out of "Standby" mode... some amps do this by pushing a button, flicking a switch, whatever... mine the switch says "Standby" or "Run".

Fuzzbox then says: "and then back onto standby before turning off. "

Correct.

Axe, if you're not sure, remember what I told you in my first post. Plug in your guitar, play it as you turn the amp on... if it has power, but there is no sound at all, even after a minute, then you push the Standby button and have sound, you did it right. On the other hand, if you turn it on and immediately hear your guitar, but its really quiet, then it gets progressively louder until it reaches full volume (whatever your volume knobs are set at, I know Maggior would be all over that one ;) ) then you turned it on improperly. Won't hurt the amp or tubes to do it just a few times that way, so experiment if you need to. You should only have to try it once to know which is the correct method.

Hope this helps & solves your problem!

Originally Posted by: Slipin LizardMaggior, I did not contradict Fuzzbox.
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I know you didn't. It's just that the terminology is confusing and I had to think about it what you wrote. "Standby on" means "sound off" - just a bit counterintuitive.

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uder until it reaches full volume (whatever your volume knobs are set at, I know Maggior would be all over that one ;) )

HEY!! :-).

yea Slipin Lizard got it right what I was saying although I didn't word my answer very well and reading back I can see how it could be confusing, it made perfect sense to me as I wrote it :)

Thanks everyone,i got it down now.,and now i can play through emulated head jacks,its awsome,with power on but keep standby off were there's no sound from speaker,u can play all day through the head phones,then when u want sound from speaker kick the stby on then that u will get equal sound from both head phone and speaker.a big thanks to all.