Personal Teacher Questions & Answers


chainsaw936
Registered User
Joined: 08/16/09
Posts: 14
chainsaw936
Registered User
Joined: 08/16/09
Posts: 14
01/31/2011 2:04 am
I've been learning guitar for almost two years and have gained a lot of knowledge and basic skills through this website on my own. I can learn just about any lick or excercise with practice but I've heard to speed up progress selcting a good personal teacher would really help. I started taking lessons about a year ago with a very accomplished musician but I'd like to hear some feedback on my dilema.

1. I chose this instructor because our musical interest are very similar and figured if you want to learn a specific style, choose accordingly
2. My progress has not been what I had hoped for based on the amount of time I set aside for practice. I've set benchmarks and worked on specific skills but applying them musically has been very slow and frustrating.
3. He doesn't have a structured/written agenda and we kind of work on things that I have been working on from GT website. Is this strange or common?

We have a good relationship but I'm not sure if he's the right teacher for my goals as a hobbyist guitar player? I'd appreciate feedback from your experience in this area so I can quite wasting my time and continue making progress to creating music...not just scale runs and licks.

Thanks!
Shawn
# 1
Slipin Lizard
Registered User
Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 711
Slipin Lizard
Registered User
Joined: 11/15/07
Posts: 711
01/31/2011 6:55 am
Hey Shawn, gee, no one took a shot at this yet? I'll give you my two cents worth.

-first off, if your instructor doesn't have some sort of structure or agenda, well, lets just say that isn't a good thing. A good instructor should act as mentor, and help you focus not just on your playing skills but on where you want to go with guitar. It sounds like while you guys get along fine, he's not helping you get to where you want to be with your playing, and therefore may not be a good investment of your time & money.

-you have to take control of your learning process.. where do YOU want to go, and why? Some people just want to be able to shred so they can create the next "throw-down" YouTube video, others want to be able to play in a band so they can play live gigs, and there's lots of people that just want to be able to play at home for fun. It sounds like you have specific ambitions with your guitar playing , but they may not yet be well defined. To be able to chart the best course, you need to first know your destination. Otherwise its just practice without purpose.

-you *might* be focusing too much on lead guitar. Remember, lead guitar playing is just a small part of the picture... sure its slick, sexy, cool, hip or whatever to be able to zip off a lighting solo, but remember, that's just a small part of the whole picture. Make sure you're learning chords and rhythmic riffs, not just lead lines & scales.

-I'm guessing again, but I'd say from your post a big part of your problem is synthesis. Learning scales and riffs is great, but that is not the end of the process. You need to take the theoretical knowledge and apply it in a context that makes sense to you. We can look at a hammer all day long, talk about grip, how to hit the nail properly, all the types of nails we can use.. oh wait, and different hammers, and now how to use the claw... hey, ain't nothing going to teach you how to use that hammer better than framing a house with it. Its the same with guitar playing... you need to take that knowledge and apply it in a real world sense, creating your own solos, playing along with backing tracks, or creating your own music from scratch. The point is, there comes a time where you need to put the theory away and reach inside and get creative, using your knowledge as a tool, not a rule book, in creating your own music. And you need to do this every day. This process is very important in getting the information you are learning to sink and for your playing to become more intuitive rather than a very conscious and deliberate act.

-you might want to switch things up a bit. Like they say, if you want a different result, then you need to do something different. It just sounds like you need an environment that will push and define your playing more. A friend of mine had this phrase in latin that translated roughly to "through pressure, comes direction". Maybe its time to start or join a band, or start writing & recording your own songs.. want some real fun? Take some hard earned dollars, and book studio time for next month... not a super fancy studio, but something that is a proper facility, not just a computer or DAW in a bedroom. If you don't have a clue of what you would record, who cares? Book the time anyways and make it non-refundable.... you'll come up with something, I promise!

Anyways, getting into a rut is normal, but the way to break out is to make a change. Also, while they are hard to find, good music programs can be really beneficial too... its a great way to meet other like-minded musicians and people that will give you that extra push.

Good luck!

Cal
# 2
Lycaean
Registered User
Joined: 11/20/10
Posts: 23
Lycaean
Registered User
Joined: 11/20/10
Posts: 23
01/31/2011 7:56 am
Hi, Shawn,
I join and agree with everything that SL said!
And I willl go further by saying fire your teacher because he's not helping you achieve your goal! You're just wasting your money and time with him!!! You'll be better off without him! Now, why did I say that?
Generally speaking, having a "very good personal teacher" would really help. Because they act as your coach, mentor, trainer or educator, you name it! However, your teacher is the exception to the rule, and I say this, based upon your very own observation, and I quote: "he doesn't have a structured/written agenda and we kind of work on things that I have been working on from GT website". What kind of teacher is that?
Funny but it's true that even a kindergarden teacher has an everyday lesson plan to guide her in teaching those cute 5-year old children; with more reason that your teacher should have one especially when it involves teaching a difficult instrument such as the guitar!
You said that you're making great advances alone through GT! Well, just continue doing that plus remember all of SL's advice/suggestions, and you will be okay to achieve your goals!!!
Lycaean
# 3
chainsaw936
Registered User
Joined: 08/16/09
Posts: 14
chainsaw936
Registered User
Joined: 08/16/09
Posts: 14
02/01/2011 1:48 am
Thanks for the replies and this was some very good advice/insight. I need to (clearly) define the objective for playing and set some milestones to take me in that direction. Now I need some help setting the goals but a good teacher should be able to/want to take care of this.

Appreciate the help and if anyone has some samples of pratice schedules, I'd like to see some ideas. Thanks again for the feedback.

Shawn
# 4
Guitarteacheruk
Registered User
Joined: 11/07/10
Posts: 17
Guitarteacheruk
Registered User
Joined: 11/07/10
Posts: 17
02/03/2011 1:14 pm
Originally Posted by: Slipin LizardHey Shawn, gee, no one took a shot at this yet? I'll give you my two cents worth.

-first off, if your instructor doesn't have some sort of structure or agenda, well, lets just say that isn't a good thing. A good instructor should act as mentor, and help you focus not just on your playing skills but on where you want to go with guitar. It sounds like while you guys get along fine, he's not helping you get to where you want to be with your playing, and therefore may not be a good investment of your time & money.

-you have to take control of your learning process.. where do YOU want to go, and why? Some people just want to be able to shred so they can create the next "throw-down" YouTube video, others want to be able to play in a band so they can play live gigs, and there's lots of people that just want to be able to play at home for fun. It sounds like you have specific ambitions with your guitar playing , but they may not yet be well defined. To be able to chart the best course, you need to first know your destination. Otherwise its just practice without purpose.

-you *might* be focusing too much on lead guitar. Remember, lead guitar playing is just a small part of the picture... sure its slick, sexy, cool, hip or whatever to be able to zip off a lighting solo, but remember, that's just a small part of the whole picture. Make sure you're learning chords and rhythmic riffs, not just lead lines & scales.

-I'm guessing again, but I'd say from your post a big part of your problem is synthesis. Learning scales and riffs is great, but that is not the end of the process. You need to take the theoretical knowledge and apply it in a context that makes sense to you. We can look at a hammer all day long, talk about grip, how to hit the nail properly, all the types of nails we can use.. oh wait, and different hammers, and now how to use the claw... hey, ain't nothing going to teach you how to use that hammer better than framing a house with it. Its the same with guitar playing... you need to take that knowledge and apply it in a real world sense, creating your own solos, playing along with backing tracks, or creating your own music from scratch. The point is, there comes a time where you need to put the theory away and reach inside and get creative, using your knowledge as a tool, not a rule book, in creating your own music. And you need to do this every day. This process is very important in getting the information you are learning to sink and for your playing to become more intuitive rather than a very conscious and deliberate act.

-you might want to switch things up a bit. Like they say, if you want a different result, then you need to do something different. It just sounds like you need an environment that will push and define your playing more. A friend of mine had this phrase in latin that translated roughly to "through pressure, comes direction". Maybe its time to start or join a band, or start writing & recording your own songs.. want some real fun? Take some hard earned dollars, and book studio time for next month... not a super fancy studio, but something that is a proper facility, not just a computer or DAW in a bedroom. If you don't have a clue of what you would record, who cares? Book the time anyways and make it non-refundable.... you'll come up with something, I promise!

Anyways, getting into a rut is normal, but the way to break out is to make a change. Also, while they are hard to find, good music programs can be really beneficial too... its a great way to meet other like-minded musicians and people that will give you that extra push.

Good luck!

Cal


Agree with this.
www.eventstudiosnottingham.co.uk - One to one and Skype lessons
# 5

Please register with a free account to post on the forum.