get rid of this iron maiden style


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12/28/2001 11:08 pm
i play guitar for about ten years, since 6 years i'm doing solos. my problem is that nearly every solo has got this maiden sounding style. are there any scales or tricks that you can give to me to get rid of this sound???

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12/29/2001 1:06 am
first thing to do is listen to other kinds of music, and trying to see what those other guys are playing.

I have learnt Jazz almost unconsciously, because I was a rock guitarist, and I started listening to a lot of jazz, and now, it has come up in my playing.

You should start learning the major scale too, just look in the tricks section to see what it has to offer... You will have another color added to your style.
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12/30/2001 5:59 am
try the mixolodian (sp?) scale, it sounds almost anti-iron maidan
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12/30/2001 10:13 am
but how can a mixolydian scale be integrated in the regular cords.
example; you've got a E, D, C, how can i soloing over it?
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12/30/2001 10:32 am
Find which chord is the root. That means which chord seems to be the one which you'll end the sond with.
Then starting on the root of this chord, you have to play the myxolydian scale. If the root is A:
-----------------------------7-9-10----
----------------------7-8-10-----------
-----------------6-7-9-----------------
-----------5-7-9-----------------------
------5-7-9----------------------------
-5-7-9---------------------------------
Modes help you sounding different, you can find where they come from in the tricks section of this site.
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12/30/2001 11:14 am
at http://www.looknohands.com/chordhouse/guitar/index_rb.html you can chose which note you wanna have there...but now i'm totaly confused, when i put an A in the space between each note on the fretboard is so high i must have a fith finger if i want to reach it(maybe a stupid question) how i have to read the scale???

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[Edited by Todde on 12-30-2001 at 06:19 AM]
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12/30/2001 11:49 am
I'm not sure I understand your question?
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12/30/2001 11:58 am
sorry, my english is not that good, well in the blues pentatonic you have to play note after note, that means you have start for example at the E and go up...is the mixolydian scale equal to this and can be played in the same way as the pentatonic, surely with other notes (hope you understand what i mean)


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12/30/2001 12:05 pm
Yes. Except that in the pentatonic scale, you only play two notes per string, while in the myxolydian mode (and in every other mode) you play 3 notes per string...

Note for classical players: actually, playing 3 notes per string is a 'rock' view. If you play classical guitar, you'll learn to play a combination of 3, 2, or 1 note per string, to avoid moving your hand laterally.
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12/30/2001 12:12 pm
thank you very much, i hope this will help me out...
oh, i forget something, are there any artist who play mixolydian scales mostly?

[Edited by Todde on 12-30-2001 at 07:17 AM]
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12/30/2001 12:22 pm
try Al di Meola. Also, when you hear a V chord in a blues progression, I refer to it (some don't but I'm from another school) as a change to the myxolydian mode
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12/30/2001 12:37 pm
thank you so far i'll check it out..

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12/30/2001 10:06 pm
yeah also scales dont have to be played from from the start to finish, every note, theya rent in any order, i usually play around with the pentatonics alot, and sometimes i get a "Scarlet Begonias" sound, it rocks.
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01/03/2002 12:05 am
try the modes, irin maiden use minor harmonic, minor ,blues etc try the others like dorian mixolydian try them all. Also listen to a variety of new music.
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01/05/2002 3:00 am
what is the iron maiden sound, by the way? i have only ehard them a few times ( didnt they make inna godda dovita...or was that iron butterfly...?)
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Originally posted by Incidents Happen
what is the iron maiden sound, by the way? i have only ehard them a few times ( didnt they make inna godda dovita...or was that iron butterfly...?)



Innagoddadavida was recored in the psychedelic 60's by Iron Butterfly. It covered the entire side of one album. I believe this was something like 27 minutes long.

Any idea what "Innagoddadavida" means? I'll post it later.

Iron Maiden came around the early 80's(?) from England. Very progressive heavy metal band. Dave Murray was the driving force behind the "Iron Maiden sound" and a premier guitarist of the day. Murray is an excellent guitarist and lead singer Bruce Dickinson was one of the first "screamers" to arrive on vinyl. Also, bass artiste Steve Harris had the finesse to lay down bass lines that accentuated Murray's guitar gymnastics.
They have had some personnel changes, so I am not sure who is in Maiden at the moment. I never had the pleasure of seeing them live, but I have heard some recordings of them live. Dave Murray NEVER plays the same song the same way twice.
Back in the mid to late 80's, Iron Maiden was all I listened to. This was the "Murders in the Rue Morgue" era of Maiden. I followed them until their album Seventh son of a Seventh Son was released. It was strange. Had a lot of synthesizer and weird sounds in the mix. Nothing at all like previous Maiden music.
All in all, Maiden was, and still is, a force in the music world and worth listening to. Just not solely.
Let's have a knock down drag out rock'n'roll party in the street!
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