Gibson vrs Fender?

les pauls rock

Originally Posted by: PonyOne
-Strats are generally considered to be classic rock guitars. Telecasters are generally considered to be blues guitars; even Fender's marketing pushes it this way... thouh in reality, both are good at both...

I more closely associate the Telecaster as a country/bluegrass guitar... not a blues guitar... Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Robert Cray, Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton, John Mayer, Buddy Guy, and Jeff Beck... just to name a few of the blues players that play strats............. just because Fender wants to market it as a rock guitar doesn't make it more of a rock guitar than a blues guitar... I don't like the constant twang of Teles... I like to run the full spectrum of tone that Strats have. But you're right they're both great guitars for many different styles.

Originally Posted by: aschleman... I don't like the constant twang of Teles...

[font=trebuchet ms]Roll off the Tone knob a bit - no more twang.[/font] :p

Haha. Yeah, good point... I guess I've never been a fan of how they feel or how they look... not just the way they sound... Much like Les Pauls. Never really was a fan of the bulky necks and big bodies. I would buy one in a heartbeat if I had the extra 10 million dollars on me... (sarcastically) haha.

i really dont know which one is better and to me it doesn't matter because i choose a guitar by trying the sound and how it feels. :p

Originally Posted by: aschlemanI more closely associate the Telecaster as a country/bluegrass guitar... not a blues guitar... Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Robert Cray, Eric Johnson, Eric Clapton, John Mayer, Buddy Guy, and Jeff Beck... just to name a few of the blues players that play strats............. just because Fender wants to market it as a rock guitar doesn't make it more of a rock guitar than a blues guitar... I don't like the constant twang of Teles... I like to run the full spectrum of tone that Strats have. But you're right they're both great guitars for many different styles.

Didn't Muddy Waters play a strat?

Ah Yes...Finally, a question that has NEVER EVER been asked before.

Originally Posted by: alucard0941this is a Heritage guitar. They built this Les Paul copy that can mop the floors with any Gibson. Its handmade and costs $1199.99 while a Gibson Les Paul can cost in the same price range but is made in factory my machines.

I havent read the rest of the post, I am sure someone would have pointed it out, but I had to do it aswell>..

When it comes to a brand like Heritage, you can be assured of similar, if not superior quality to Gibsons...The brand was started by all the old Gibson staff that refused to relocate to Nashville from Kalamazoo.
The guitars are built in the same factory, by many of the same people who built pre-mid 80's Gibbos...they are Nice.

I own a Gibson Les Paul...it does sound amazing, and anyone who tells you otherwise should be shot! that said, the quality of Gibson products does fluctuate, and their construction is almost always not inkeeping with their price tags...

I find that alot of custom shops produce really great stuff as well...not only the guys like Tom Anderson, Don Grosh and John Suhr...but also the smaller guys like Nathan Sheppard (I love his guitars...wish I could buy one) Black Machine (see www.blackmachine.net and be blown away by these things) and John Procter...I am nt sure of too many Us luthiers...but their are some amazing Uk brands that just blow my mind...

having said that...there are also some Gibsons and Fenders that blow my mind...not to mention Prs.
Infact, I am about to buy a Fender tele (american,ash) which is amazing...just have to wait for my salesman to return from holliday next week (he gives me good prices)...but considering that all my other guitars are usually HH Mahogany types, this is a weird change...but it just feels right...


as for Gibson vs Fender....why do we have to choose?

Originally Posted by: Andrew SaBlack Machine (see www.blackmachine.net and be blown away by these things)

hate the headstock, love the rest... I wonder how many people have to come back to him with a broken headstock cause it couldn't withstand the strain of the strings, especially on the 7 and 8 strings (btw, who really needs an 8 string???)

Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrshate the headstock, love the rest... I wonder how many people have to come back to him with a broken headstock cause it couldn't withstand the strain of the strings, especially on the 7 and 8 strings (btw, who really needs an 8 string???)

This guy. 1235

Originally Posted by: RaskolnikovThis guy. 1235

I see, I didn't really think about using for a jazzy type of thing, I was just thinking of people like korn type of thing.

that guy was actually pretty cool (I thought it was kinda wierd that his frets were angled though...)

Originally Posted by: RaskolnikovThis guy. 1235

haha, that just made me think of Rusty Cooley

Originally Posted by: RaskolnikovThis guy. 1235

Is it just me or is there just not enough music of that quality in the world?

Originally Posted by: Cryptic ExcretionsIs it just me or is there just not enough music of that quality in the world?

I really don't like Joe Satriani's music at all, but between Charlie Hunter and Larry LaLonde (both formerly his students), he's one of my all-time favorite people.

Originally Posted by: Cryptic ExcretionsIs it just me or is there just not enough music of that quality in the world?

I agree

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Didn't Muddy Waters play a strat?

Muddy played a cherry red Telcaster which had Marshall amp's knobs.

man, im gettin alot of posts...lol, but ya, umm, wat really annoys me are guitars that are like exactly the same as like a strat or les paul, but its sum stupid unknown company, it really annoys me.

Originally Posted by: alucard0941you know guys, there are many more better guitars than Fender and Gibsons

...(GASP!!! OMG I CANT BELIVE HE JUST SAID THERE ARE BETTER GUITARS THAN FENDER AND GIBSON!!! THAT CANNOT BE!!!!!! BUT NO!!!!!) I know in all the guitar books out there, the only guitars they mention are Fender and Gibsons, well for all you people who think those are the only quality guitars out there listen up:

May I add that Stratocasters and Telecasters, and Les Pauls are not even as close in quality as what they used to be at their birth. Now you can find many more guitars better than those companies, but no one choosed them cause you gotta have the the name brand... ;)

I belive if your gonna shell out 2000 bucks on a gibson thats mass produced, made in a factory and comes in box from the local guitar center, you might aswell slap yourself in the face if you were going to buy that guitar for the sound. You should take in some consideration into handmade guitars about the same price. They will offer much more in a guitar with precise details in qualitly.
You guys should visit some local guitar stores that are run privatly and see what they have to offer. Usually, they dont carry big name brands and only carry the stuff you cant find at the Guitar Center, and the really rare handmade guitars priced to compete with big name brands.



this is a Heritage guitar. They built this Les Paul copy that can mop the floors with any Gibson. Its handmade and costs $1199.99 while a Gibson Les Paul can cost in the same price range but is made in factory my machines.

I couldn't agree more. Heritage guitars are also built in the original Gibson factory in Kalamazoo, Mi. on the original machines, and was started by a group of original Gibson employees that didn't want to relocate to Nashville.

I think Fenders are more reasonably priced, but that is because of construction techniques. It is easier to produce a bolt on guitar with a flat top than a guitar with a glued in set dove tail neck joint. Also, it is more expensive to aquire the figured top woods that Gibson uses, and to carve them into an arch.

But for what Gibson charges, you think they could at least put on a METAL jack plate instead of the crummy PLASTIC plate that they commonly use....sheesh...I can't count how many times I have had to replace a cracked or broken jack plate for my customers that are Gibson owners. Another gripe would be the fragile headstocks. I've done inumerous repairs to Gibson headstocks. The reason being that they have an angle to the head stock, which does allow for the absence of string trees, but if it tips over backwards, the top of the headstock hits the ground before the rest of the guitar does and then SNAP! Another reason for the frail nature is that these necks have a glue joint near the headstock. The reason for that is to save money on construction because of how large a peice of wood you would need in order to produce the angle of the headstock. Fender does not have an angled headstock and make there necks from a single peice of wood. I have yet to ever see a broken headstock on a Fender. I'm not saying it isn't possible, but you would have to actually try to break the headstock on a fender...it isn't gonna break from just being knocked over.

For the price of most Gibsons or Fender Custom Shop guitars, I would rather go with a custom build for around the same price and control the specs myself. Independent luthiers are usually a real treat to work with, and give your instrument the individual attention that you deserve.

As for the original question, I prefer Fender. Gibsons just feel to "boxy" to me, and because of the shorter scale length I get all cramped up on the upper frets. I also don't like how high the strings are from the body or the angle they use in the neck pocket. Plus with the shorter scale, I would have to use a heavier gauge string to compensate for the "slack" feel of these guitars.

Phew....I'm outta breath :o

Originally Posted by: jk_647Yeh man Wht is it always with the whole gibson vs fender thing man there are way better makes out there and i think on my personal prefrence if your gunna be shelling out alot of money for a guitar go for a prs or something. Now they are buetiful handmade guitars and worth every penny!!!! But guitar are always down to the individual but as the whole thread is for gibson cough overpirced cough cough vs fender i would have to go for fender at the moment as i like the shape the feel and the sound!!! :D

PRS are not handmade guitars anymore, and haven't been for quite some time now. They use CNC, and to me they have a wimpy neck joint.

I like Bunker Guitars best. Very inovative. www.bunker-guitars.com

I see it as a simple issue. If you want to play a guitar that sounds like a les paul then your best bet is a les paul or an acceptable knockoff. If you want to play a guitar that sounds like a tele or strat then your best bet is a tele or strat or an acceptable knockoff.

There is no better or worse between the two companies.