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09/01/2005 2:59 pm
hey deapist sympathy to evry1 who got hit by the storm at least some of ya got some of ya guitars out in one peice

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09/01/2005 3:54 pm
Where I live, people are upset about the gas prices, but that's not all. That only makes up about half or less of the fussing. I'm sure it's different elswhere, where people really don't have a grasp on the reality of this disaster. I mean, how could they, if the only way they are affected by it, is raised gas prices. The whole ordeal just makes me sick.
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09/01/2005 4:00 pm
Originally Posted by: PonyOnelast night i was driving my sister home from a party and i went by a Gulf station; $3.11 for regular. It was 3.28 at a station across the way.

I wonder what it'll be like in CA... thank god i walk to work and drive something European. a tank lasts me like a month and a half. the prices were as high as $3.89 back in Los Angeles, so, it should definitely be over $4 per gallon.

well, I'm in northern california, but, the day started out at about $2.89, and ended at like $3.10... just to show you how quickly the price is rising.
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09/01/2005 4:03 pm
What's really sick is that we're really just getting into prime hurricane season. I expect a few more like this one before the season's out. That would be devastating to a devastated area.
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09/01/2005 4:46 pm
My bud on leave from the Navy just had to drive here from Virginia. He said he almost got gas in Pensacola, but he still had 3/4 tank so he kept going...bad idea. Of course the main arteries of highways being down he had to take an improvised detour. But anyways, he was starting to run low, but all of the towns in Miss. were either out of gas or still didn't have power (or even damaged/destroyed). Cars were strung up and down the roads (presumably ran out as well). He came across one station still with gas, yet the line of cars was over a mile. So he continued west...again either out, or a line so long you can assume it will be by the time it's your turn in 4 hours. Yet the next bump in the road town had a station that only had 3 cars in line per pump. So waiting there with only one more truck in front of him, he sees the employees come out and start putting plastic bags on the pumps around him. Of course the truck in front of him is a huge dual tank F-350 or something and they're also filling some kinda tanks in the back. Finally when they were done and it was his turn, the clerk comes up and tells him there's only Super left. Obviously he didn't care, and was just grateful to have any and he filled up just before they ran out. He was lucky, he could have very easily had to spend the night on the side of the road. But more than this stress, he said he couldn't believe the devastation he drove through.
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09/01/2005 5:13 pm
This was this morning in Galveston Bay:

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09/02/2005 2:19 am
Well this is my share on the whole Katrina incident. As a few of you know, or maybe just Jolly, I visited my brother down in New Orleans the week before Katrina. He lives, well lived down there.
We were visting the Grand Isle and went to a food place. This redneck waiter told us that the hurricane was supposed to hit New Orleans. Before that we had assumed it was turning the other way. So we go home, watch the news on the internet (to poor for cable). And all of a sudden we realize how serious this is (this is Friday night by the way).
Next day I'm going home on my flight. We had to sit through traffic to get to the airport from all the people evacuating. When I finally got to the airport there were tons of people. I talked to one guy, and he said he was flying up to Dulles (as I was) to just get away from it. Other people were just buying tickets on the spot. Basically most of the people at the airport were just trying to find a way out.
Well imediately after dropping me off my brother went and got his clothes, and started driving up towards Virginia to stay with me. He left his computer, stereo, and tv. Before I left his land lord was assuring him that everything would be fine, and they probably wouldn't even lose power. My brother, being from Virginia and not used to hurricans, wasn't about to sit and wait a hurricane out.
Before he left he tried to pick up his friend Ms. Dale, because she doesn't have a car. She was a nice mid aged black lady that I met. She said God were protect her, and my brother left. He also talked to his boss from Starbucks on the cell phone. She said (which I thought was funny) "i'm going to go stay in the projects, those bricks will never go down." I also met that lady too. Its hard for me to believe that more than likely those two ladies are dead.
I walked the French Quarter and visited the graveyard with voodoo queen in it, walked down bourbon steet and saw all the idiot drunk, smoked in a hookah cafe, and a million other things. I saw huges houses that had been there for 200 years. To even imagine any of that destroyed is just devastating me.
I wanted to go to Loyola, finally figured out what college suites me, and its probably not going to work out. Thats my selfish motive.
All I can say is I hope they restore the city, because it is more than just any regular city like Denver or DC, because of its culture. Its one of the last places in America, I believe, where one can pull of the whole starving artist routine.
My prayers go out to them.

Peace,
Holly

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09/02/2005 2:48 am
Originally Posted by: iihollyWell this is my share on the whole Katrina incident. As a few of you know, or maybe just Jolly, I visited my brother down in New Orleans the week before Katrina. He lives, well lived down there.
We were visting the Grand Isle and went to a food place. This redneck waiter told us that the hurricane was supposed to hit New Orleans. Before that we had assumed it was turning the other way. So we go home, watch the news on the internet (to poor for cable). And all of a sudden we realize how serious this is (this is Friday night by the way).
Next day I'm going home on my flight. We had to sit through traffic to get to the airport from all the people evacuating. When I finally got to the airport there were tons of people. I talked to one guy, and he said he was flying up to Dulles (as I was) to just get away from it. Other people were just buying tickets on the spot. Basically most of the people at the airport were just trying to find a way out.
Well imediately after dropping me off my brother went and got his clothes, and started driving up towards Virginia to stay with me. He left his computer, stereo, and tv. Before I left his land lord was assuring him that everything would be fine, and they probably wouldn't even lose power. My brother, being from Virginia and not used to hurricans, wasn't about to sit and wait a hurricane out.
Before he left he tried to pick up his friend Ms. Dale, because she doesn't have a car. She was a nice mid aged black lady that I met. She said God were protect her, and my brother left. He also talked to his boss from Starbucks on the cell phone. She said (which I thought was funny) "i'm going to go stay in the projects, those bricks will never go down." I also met that lady too. Its hard for me to believe that more than likely those two ladies are dead.
I walked the French Quarter and visited the graveyard with voodoo queen in it, walked down bourbon steet and saw all the idiot drunk, smoked in a hookah cafe, and a million other things. I saw huges houses that had been there for 200 years. To even imagine any of that destroyed is just devastating me.
I wanted to go to Loyola, finally figured out what college suites me, and its probably not going to work out. Thats my selfish motive.
All I can say is I hope they restore the city, because it is more than just any regular city like Denver or DC, because of its culture. Its one of the last places in America, I believe, where one can pull of the whole starving artist routine.
My prayers go out to them.

Peace,
Holly



Well put Holly. That city has (had?) an amazing culture. I'm sure it'll be rebuilt in the decades to come.
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09/02/2005 4:06 am
Originally Posted by: iihollyWell this is my share on the whole Katrina incident. As a few of you know, or maybe just Jolly, I visited my brother down in New Orleans the week before Katrina. He lives, well lived down there.
We were visting the Grand Isle and went to a food place. This redneck waiter told us that the hurricane was supposed to hit New Orleans. Before that we had assumed it was turning the other way. So we go home, watch the news on the internet (to poor for cable). And all of a sudden we realize how serious this is (this is Friday night by the way).
Next day I'm going home on my flight. We had to sit through traffic to get to the airport from all the people evacuating. When I finally got to the airport there were tons of people. I talked to one guy, and he said he was flying up to Dulles (as I was) to just get away from it. Other people were just buying tickets on the spot. Basically most of the people at the airport were just trying to find a way out.
Well imediately after dropping me off my brother went and got his clothes, and started driving up towards Virginia to stay with me. He left his computer, stereo, and tv. Before I left his land lord was assuring him that everything would be fine, and they probably wouldn't even lose power. My brother, being from Virginia and not used to hurricans, wasn't about to sit and wait a hurricane out.
Before he left he tried to pick up his friend Ms. Dale, because she doesn't have a car. She was a nice mid aged black lady that I met. She said God were protect her, and my brother left. He also talked to his boss from Starbucks on the cell phone. She said (which I thought was funny) "i'm going to go stay in the projects, those bricks will never go down." I also met that lady too. Its hard for me to believe that more than likely those two ladies are dead.
I walked the French Quarter and visited the graveyard with voodoo queen in it, walked down bourbon steet and saw all the idiot drunk, smoked in a hookah cafe, and a million other things. I saw huges houses that had been there for 200 years. To even imagine any of that destroyed is just devastating me.
I wanted to go to Loyola, finally figured out what college suites me, and its probably not going to work out. Thats my selfish motive.
All I can say is I hope they restore the city, because it is more than just any regular city like Denver or DC, because of its culture. Its one of the last places in America, I believe, where one can pull of the whole starving artist routine.
My prayers go out to them.

Peace,
Holly



hooka cafe!!! i used to go there! :(

god damn....i miss everything taht's gone....i miss home.
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09/02/2005 4:48 am
I just remembered that I have some cousins who just moved to louisiana, and my grandmother was staying with them... haven't heard from them for a while...

I'm only just remembering now, because they JUST moved only a couple weeks ago. so, it hasn't fully registered in my brain that they live there now... or did...
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09/02/2005 5:08 am
"No One Can Say they Didn't See it Coming"

By Sidney Blumenthal

In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.

Biblical in its uncontrolled rage and scope, Hurricane Katrina has left millions of Americans to scavenge for food and shelter and hundreds to thousands reportedly dead. With its main levee broken, the evacuated city of New Orleans has become part of the Gulf of Mexico. But the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature.

A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration ordered that the research not be undertaken.

After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations.

In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City.
But
by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war.

In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent.
Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds for fixing New Orleans' levees, but it was too late.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune, which before the hurricane published a series on the federal funding problem, and whose presses are now underwater, reported online: "No one can say they didn't see it coming ... Now in the wake of one of the worst storms ever, serious questions are being asked about the lack of preparation."

The Bush administration's policy of turning over wetlands to developers almost certainly also contributed to the heightened level of the storm surge. In 1990, a federal task force began restoring lost wetlands surrounding New Orleans. Every two miles of wetland between the Crescent City and the Gulf reduces a surge by half a foot. Bush had promised "no net loss" of wetlands, a policy launched by his father's administration and bolstered by President Clinton. But he reversed his approach in 2003, unleashing the developers. The Army Corps of Engineers and the Environmental Protection Agency then announced they could no longer protect wetlands unless they were somehow related to interstate commerce.

In response to this potential crisis, four leading environmental groups conducted a joint expert study, concluding in 2004 that without wetlands protection New Orleans could be devastated by an ordinary, much less a Category 4 or 5, hurricane.
"There's no way to describe how mindless a policy that is when it comes to wetlands protection," said one of the report's authors. The chairman of the White House's Council on Environmental Quality dismissed the study as "highly questionable," and boasted, "Everybody loves what we're doing."

"My administration's climate change policy will be science based," President Bush declared in June 2001.
But in 2002, when the Environmental Protection Agency submitted a study on global warming to the United Nations reflecting its expert research, Bush derided it as "a report put out by a bureaucracy," and excised the climate change assessment from the agency's annual report.
The next year, when the EPA issued its first comprehensive "Report on the Environment," stating, "Climate change has global consequences for human health and the environment," the White House simply demanded removal of the line and all similar conclusions. At the G-8 meeting in Scotland this year, Bush successfully stymied any common action on global warming. Scientists, meanwhile, have continued to accumulate impressive data on the rising temperature of the oceans, which has produced more severe hurricanes.

In February 2004, 60 of the nation's leading scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates, warned in a statement, "Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policymaking":
"Successful application of science has played a large part in the policies that have made the United States of America the world's most powerful nation and its citizens increasingly prosperous and healthy ... Indeed, this principle has long been adhered to by presidents and administrations of both parties in forming and implementing policies. The administration of George W. Bush has, however, disregarded this principle ... The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease."
Bush completely ignored this statement.

In the two weeks preceding the storm in the Gulf,
the trumping of science by ideology and expertise by special interests accelerated. The Federal Drug Administration announced that it was postponing sale of the morning-after contraceptive pill, despite overwhelming scientific evidence of its safety and its approval by the FDA's scientific advisory board.

The United Nations special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa accused the Bush administration of responsibility for a condom shortage in Uganda -- the result of the administration's evangelical Christian agenda of "abstinence."
When the chief of the Bureau of Justice Statistics in the Justice Department was ordered by the White House to delete its study that African-Americans and other minorities are subject to racial profiling in police traffic stops and he refused to buckle under, he was forced out of his job.
When the Army Corps of Engineers' chief contracting oversight analyst objected to a $7 billion no-bid contract awarded for work in Iraq to Halliburton (the firm at which Vice President Cheney was formerly CEO), she was demoted despite her superior professional ratings.
At the National Park Service, a former Cheney aide, a political appointee lacking professional background, drew up a plan to overturn past environmental practices and prohibit any mention of evolution while allowing sale of religious materials through the Park Service.

On the day the levees burst in New Orleans, Bush delivered a speech in Colorado comparing the Iraq war to World War II and himself to Franklin D. Roosevelt:
"And he knew that the best way to bring peace and stability to the region was by bringing freedom to Japan." Bush had boarded his very own "Streetcar Named Desire."
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09/02/2005 6:24 am
I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this but: "It's a dumbass goverment you got!!!". Man, I can't believe they were reellected.
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09/02/2005 4:26 pm
Hmmm...already blaming the government eh? I don't believe any bigger levy (short of the biggest construction project ever undertaken by man) would've saved New Orleans from a Catagory 5. You just gotta run from those bad boys. Perhaps a mass exodus could've been more organized, yet evacuating a 100's of thousands of people within 2 days, is still pretty unrealistic. Of course there's always those who have selective memory of the weaker storms and just hope to ride it out. I believe Houston and other surrounding states/cities are stepping up as the enormity of this hits. Despite the news reports, the Astrodome is still accepting refugees, and they just opened the Reliant Center up next door as well. I'm dropping by there tonight on my way out of town to donate some clothes. Hope they like Zep and Floyd tees! :D
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09/02/2005 4:59 pm
Originally Posted by: R. ShackleferdHope they like Zep and Floyd tees! :D


I don't know if they do, but I know I do... :D
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09/03/2005 4:29 am
Originally Posted by: PonyOnei really don't like the candor of the guy who heads FEMA.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html
seems like kind of a jerk...

i like the candor of mayor nagin....i'm proud to have him as a mayor...well...former mayor now, i guess....i dunno.
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09/03/2005 5:31 am
I like the word "candor."
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09/03/2005 4:50 pm
Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonI like the word "candor."

I like the name "nagin" it shows that this guy must be using his noggin... or not... I'm not sure since I don't that kind of patience to read through all the links ponyone posts.
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09/03/2005 5:04 pm
What I dont get is that the people in New Orleans are complaining, "When the twin hurricanes hit Florida jumped to thier aid, now we arent getting any"... Why are they complaining when people are shooting down the rescue crews!?!?!?!!? :confused: This is true idiocy imo.
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09/03/2005 5:26 pm
Yeah, I know but how can we help them if they are gonna try to kill us?
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09/03/2005 10:01 pm
Originally Posted by: x0o_BurnOut_o0xWhat I dont get is that the people in New Orleans are complaining, "When the twin hurricanes hit Florida jumped to thier aid, now we arent getting any"... Why are they complaining when people are shooting down the rescue crews!?!?!?!!? :confused: This is true idiocy imo.



not everyone is shooting at them. the people who are are the trash that should haev just died and probably are druggies who don't have their fix.

there are some real idiots but don't let that hurt the good people stuck in bad situations.
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