UNOWNABLE (Short Version) wma and mp3

Latest bit of...well...don't wanna call it shred 'cause I hope I have a little more melodic sense than alot of that genre.

Grew up listening to Lynch, MacAlpine, Vai, Satriani, Malmsteen, Liszt, Beethoven,...even Iron Maiden...

Hopefully after a few years I do have my own style anyway.

wma version
UNOWNABLE short version
mp3
UNOWNABLE short version


All Guitars and Fauex "Bass" played by me.

All weird sounds courtesy of Fruity Loops or warped soundbytes I
downloaded off the internet and made quirky through Goldwave.

Special thanks to jwoo100 for the drums beginning at the 3:02 mark
until no more drums...about the end of the file at 4:00 minutes.

for some reason, this link doesnt work..

Originally Posted by: alucard0941for some reason, this link doesnt work..

Server is a buddy of mine's. Usually quite quick...seems slow atm...

The file will load...just takes about 15 seconds or so...

Both links lead to the same .wma file

Sorry 'bout that...I forgot to rename the second link...mp3.

I never use mp3's...usually wave and wma files...better format...I think
most people agree, but not everybody has Windows or WMP...

Everything should work now....

Originally Posted by: BMG_SKULKLatest bit of...well...don't wanna call it shred 'cause I hope I have a little more melodic sense than alot of that genre.

This is great shred, but "melodic sense" doesn't really appear until around 2:30 seconds right before some more fast stuff. And after 3 minutes is pretty nice melodically...but then comes 3:40 on...which is amazing playing, but really no direction. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to belittle your playing, you are a damn good guitarist, just remember that you don't have to sacrifice melodic ideas for speed.

i like it,

but it seems that the begginning note is off with the rythm guitar, I dunno if its planned. Its in the scale, but its a weird not to start on, because once you glide down the guitar it sounds on.

Your really good tho man, keep up the shredding, pretty sick stuff in my book

Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonThis is great shred, but "melodic sense" doesn't really appear until around 2:30 seconds right before some more fast stuff. And after 3 minutes is pretty nice melodically...but then comes 3:40 on...which is amazing playing, but really no direction. Keep in mind, I'm not trying to belittle your playing, you are a damn good guitarist, just remember that you don't have to sacrifice melodic ideas for speed.

Yeah....I think the hardest part of playing or composing any type of music,
is coming up with that hook or melody and then expanding on it correctly.
It's still something I'm working on. (Just a few months ago, I started using
a PC to mix and record with, and the PC is really the first time I have been
able to "compose" something.

I spent a few years just listening to Paganinni and Yngwie, and practicing
scales and arpeggios, but when I started "composing", it brought out
the musicality in me, rather than just a bunch of over-practiced scales
and chords, and arps.

Then I heard and really got into wanting to make Tony MacAlpine quality
melodies....like you hear on his Maximum Security album. Not wanting to
become a Mac clone, but the quality of his melodies is just unreal to me.
(Must have been all those years playing as a pianist...Chopin etc.)

Then you have Lynch and his eerie "Scary" quirkiness who just sounds
bad a**.

Like I said...working on it.

BTW, nearly everything I do is improvisation...one take recording and mixing.
So there are a few things I miss, or could have done better, and usually on my next tune I do.

Thanks for the input, constructive critique, and nice comments.

Originally Posted by: Re2point0i like it,

but it seems that the begginning note is off with the rythm guitar, I dunno if its planned. Its in the scale, but its a weird not to start on, because once you glide down the guitar it sounds on.

Your really good tho man, keep up the shredding, pretty sick stuff in my book

Hmmm...really there is no rythym guitar, but more of a Bass sound I used
from tweaking my Digi RP200. I think I was trying to build up to the proper
accented note in the section you are talking about, instead of hitting it
right off, because to me, that is so obvious...cliche'.

And appreciate you listening and the input.

As far as technicality, you got it. Just need to work on the little things like being a bit more cleaner and not using that much reverb. The tone of your guitar was overpowering the actual substance.

Other than that, you go it

ok... not saying anything bad about your skill... but melodically it was strange, like the way it transitioned... and stuff... I think the content was good it just transistioned rather roughly...

Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrsok... not saying anything bad about your skill... but melodically it was strange, like the way it transitioned... and stuff... I think the content was good it just transistioned rather roughly...

That's because this is the SHORT version. I cut out some stuff. And didn't spend a lot of time editing those cuts...

Originally Posted by: alucard0941As far as technicality, you got it. Just need to work on the little things like being a bit more cleaner and not using that much reverb. The tone of your guitar was overpowering the actual substance.

Other than that, you go it

Hmm....I don't use a whole lotta verb. I do use some mono delay to get
some extra sustain, not an acho, but a sustain.

Anyway, my main problem is not knowing yet the entire spectrum of
the re-cording pallette. In other words, what instrument sits where
in the mix.

Below is an outtro to a tune I did called Fallen.

Same guitar settings...even have a rythym guitar with basically the
same tone as the lead. You can hear both distinctly.

There is one instrument missing...the drums. They are drowned in the
back, as you can barely hear the crash ride.

There is only a limited amount of space that you can put each
instrument and it's tone. Once you master the art of getting
a good to great balance EVERYTIME...then you are onto something.

Haven't got there yet myself....obviously...


mp3
Fallen Outro

wma
Fallen Outro

Here's a clip from a tune I did for because I liked the movies
Jeepers Creepers.

BTW, the only reason I am posting clips is because the complete tunes
are already over at Guitarist net.

In fact, one of my other ones, Dreams in Nihilistic Glides was top rated
for a while for the whole site. (And I thought fame would never come...)
(Pfffttt...LOL)

Called Propped up on Sticks.

This is just the main melody and part of the solo section.

If I had a decent Processor, I would have liked to have added some
dual sounding guitars, (Pitch shiftr), but the RP200 only sounds
decent on it's pitch settings if you play very very slow, and hit
no flats or sharps, and also don't bend...otherwise it sounds like
an old arcade machine....kinda synthetic. Doesn't sing so much as
beep.

wma (2 MB)
Propped up on Sticks

mp3
Propped up on Sticks