Is downloading illegal in your country?


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09/17/2004 12:14 am
I must have missed this RIAA discussion, but I'm going to take a guess
that it's about the thread where you would download a song and review it?

So then I have a question for you all:
Is copyrighted material illegal to download in your country?
Because it's not here in Sweden. Yet.
As long as it's for personal use, it does'nt matter if it's copyrighted.
They are however changing that, so it will become illegal January 2005,
but the ISP's will still not be allowed to give out information on who's
downloading what, so they'll still have a hard time tracking down individuals.

Now rants about this world-wide downloading issue:

The argument most downloaders have is that CD's are becoming increasingly
expensive. In Sweden, we have one the highest prices on CD's in the world,
it's twice the price in most other countries.
I think that argument is just (insert foul word of choice)!!

I mean, how many CD's does the average person buy?
One a year, one a month, what?
It can't be that many that you have to download them to avoid poverty.
I'm a frequent downloader, it's not about that (hehe it's legal here so
you can't catch me!), but lets face it:
It's not the high prices, it's cheapness and laziness!
I mean, "I wont buy that expensive CD, so I go home and download
100 songs from other bands", come on!
Even if the prices were reasonable most of us would'nt buy them.
Why should we, it's free and you don't have to leave the house.
So the people who work with music are having a tough time?
Well, what do we care? It's free for crying out loud!
However, the more you think about it, the more wrong it seems.
But does that stop us from downloading? No.
It's like watching a car thats about to crash on "Caught on tape";
You know it will end in disaster, but you still want to see it!
Ok, bad analogy, but you get the picture.

I do think downloading is wrong, but what am I gonna do, it's f r e e !
People are genetically lazy, thats a fact. For example,we've invented
millions of gadgets that does almost everything for us.
If you just remember to breathe once in a while you'll do fine.
Therefore, the word "free" has always had a special place in our hearts.
Free means "I don't have to work to get money to buy it, it's for free".
Then maybe you don't need 98% of the free stuff available, but it's still free.
But here we're dealing with something we really want:
music, movies, games, books, software, you name it, and when all that is
suddenly available for free, most of us don't care about the consequences,
especially when it's unlikely that the consequences will affect us.

I don't have a solution, but I have facts.
And that concludes thursdays rant. Oh and the question to.
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09/17/2004 8:21 am
They're trying to make it illegal too in my country , but no matter how hard they try , they would never be able to stop it.

Anyway , the reason I download mp3s is due to the fact that most of the music I like is not popular in my country , that's why I usualy never find original cds to buy.

I have lots of original cds for popular bands like Metallica , Pantera and so , but here in egypt I can never find cds for people like Vai or Jason Becker for instence ... What shall I do , stop listening to the music that I like ?
I'd love to support artists that I like and buy their cds if I can find them , but I'm not going to buy the latest britney spears and eminem's records to support record companies , cuz I don't care .
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09/17/2004 11:29 am
When I used to download songs, before the RIAA started busting people, I used to find stuff I liked and, if it was any good buy the album.

These days I use iTunes music store, which when all is said and done is rather crap.
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09/19/2004 4:09 am
Yes, iTunes is a rather horrible program.

But going back to the downloading issue, I can't really blame people for downloading mp3s from the internet when the average price for CDs at Best Buy is 16.99. What a freaking rip off.

If they made the prices reasonable ($9.99 in my opinion) then people would be less apt to download.
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09/19/2004 1:30 pm
Evolve or die music industry.....



bean counting days are over !!

(I wish !)
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09/19/2004 2:28 pm
Originally Posted by: SLYWhat shall I do , stop listening to the music that I like ?


You mail me money and I'll mail you CDs, deal?
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09/19/2004 6:47 pm
Originally Posted by: PonyOnemy personal code is that, if i download three songs off a CD that I like then I go buy the CD to support the people who made the album I liked.[/QUOTE]

The best way to support the bands you like is to see them in concert. I believe that's how most bands make the majority of their money anyway.


[QUOTE=PonyOne]people are starting to get sick of hearing yet another Linkin Park, Britney Spears or 50 Cent album... it seems like the industry has gotten especially bad lately about just recycling the same old crap.


Speaking of the same old crap, I can't believe people actually watch that American idol crap. When will white people realize that they can't sing like black people???
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09/19/2004 7:09 pm
About the time we evolve into something smarter.
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09/19/2004 7:56 pm
Hey, Christoph...can I call you Christobel?
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09/19/2004 8:14 pm
Originally Posted by: Dr_simonWhen I used to download songs, before the RIAA started busting people, I used to find stuff I liked and, if it was any good buy the album.

These days I use iTunes music store, which when all is said and done is rather crap.


Just what this guy that ran a music shop in my town said, "Its not the people downloading music that cause the problem its the people who are copying albums!"

As you and this other guy said.. It means you may decide you like the band and go and buy the album.

Problem is these days with faster internet connections its possible to download whole albums if they can find the songs.

I still download a bit. Apparently its the people who download songs all day are the ones most likely to get caught.
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09/19/2004 8:53 pm
Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonHey, Christoph...can I call you Christobel?


Uh, why?

How about Cristobal?
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09/19/2004 9:00 pm
Originally Posted by: ChristophUh, why?

How about Cristobal?


Cuz in Family Guy, they call Chris "Christobel" in one episode.
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