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02/26/2004 9:43 pm
It occurs to me that I'm becoming an 80s metalhead and I find this disturbing. Adding the pinky into play and digging the scales is all very well and all but I've gotta get back to my roots. Blues is just so much more cooler. I get a better vibe listening to blues than I do listening to some shredding tune. I'm going to keep on practicing the scales and such, just start listening to blues again. I freakn hate metal. Well not really but.
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02/26/2004 10:50 pm
Yeah, i know what you mean. Its good to vary what you play and listen to sometimes. I saw a blues rock band a week ago and they were really great. When i was listning i was thinking " i wish i could play blues rock like that". I'm not really into just normal blues though !
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02/27/2004 12:11 am
I'm sure not too many of us are around here. Although I could be mistaken. I used to have a cd of various blues player under... Atlantic or some label, and it was my favorite cd for a long time. Most of what I've got now is the old time stuff, it's time to hit up some modern artists.

It goes in phases doesn't it. For me anyway. Took a chunk of rock based on classical for a bit, was a real metalhead and it was all I listened to, now I'm swinging back the other way. What band is directly in the middle for me? Couldn't tell you. Van Halen sticks out as being both blues based and classical based, as equal as it can get, in my opinion. Maybe I'm missing the obvious.
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02/27/2004 12:45 am
All I can play decent is blues... damned guitar teacher. But I'm working on that. Especially after being "bitched at", but not really, by my lead guitarrist to night. "thats not metal enough," wah wah wah. I got his metal. Actually its probably going to be good for me exploring other styles. Not that I haven't before... well I'm rambling, and I have forgotten what this post was about in the first place...

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02/27/2004 1:55 am
Blues is the best color of lead guitar to throw into punk. Just felt like mentioning that. :)

I don't listen to enough blues or jazz. I love the music, the most fun I've had playing guitar was in a jazz band, I just don't have any of it to listen to.
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02/27/2004 3:04 am
Yeah I second, or millionth that (don;t remember how many people have already said this) but listening to different styles definitely helps. There is alot to take from blues in my opinion. To me it's the most expressive style on guitar, and can really add to rock and metal players since all three are (common) pentatonic based. So it's definitely worth a look to any rock guitar to see and learn how blues players use pents and the almighty blues note.
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02/27/2004 3:09 am
Jazz is every bit as expressive as blues.
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02/27/2004 3:31 am
Okay, lets not make it into a contest or anything...
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02/27/2004 3:42 am
Jazz is more fun to play than blues, imo. That stuff can move.
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02/27/2004 4:29 am
I did jazz bass for the longest time and I hated it. No not hated but didn't really get into it. I only kept at it because I could do it without really trying and I enjoyed the theory part of it. Only recently have I started to listen to some of it and only the real name brand guys like gillespie, charlie parker, davis and such.
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02/27/2004 4:03 pm
Yeah its good to get back to the roots
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02/28/2004 4:19 am
BLUES ROCKS!!!


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02/28/2004 4:28 am
We all got a right to an opinion, mind you I've never used mind to put down anothers music.

So you don't like the blues. lol. Well man, there's two kinds of popular rock in my opinion - one based on blues and the other on classical. Classical rock seems dead, so does rock based on blues too though - You don't like the blues, does that mean that you don't like any classic rock? I mean, what guitarist doesn't have blues influence? I'm by no means solely a blues concentrated guitarist, it's just I'm not narrowminded enough to close it off as source of influence.



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02/28/2004 6:37 am
I wish I had some blues to listen to, but I don't know where to start.

I think the most blues I've heard in my life is two songs by BB King and the lead guitar work in NoFX, which is kinda funny since they play punk.
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02/28/2004 8:53 pm
Lots of blues artists out there. My favorite and as blues as rock can get is Hendrix, Gary Moore, Albert King, Luther Allison, Freddie King, Howlin' Wolf, Albert Collins, SRV of course... I'm not at home, can't think of any more. I'd imagine a lot of people would find the old blues stuff dry, boring even. But I think I'd rather get a lot of my style from those guys than from the 80s style guitarists (even if their soloing is 400 percent faster). I dislike listening through those 80s tunes for their solos, only because I know some of it's rubbing off on me. Not that I think it sucks or whatever, just not the direction I want to take - that particular style.
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02/28/2004 9:53 pm
It's always fun comparing influence with personal style. I personally hate most pop music and almost all my recent musical influence is from the likes of marilyn manson and disturbed, but my actual playing style definitely is closer to pop than anything else. I suppose that's what I get for listening to third eye blind when I was younger :)
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02/29/2004 5:16 am
Originally posted by basics
It occurs to me that I'm becoming an 80s metalhead and I find this disturbing. Adding the pinky into play and digging the scales is all very well and all but I've gotta get back to my roots.


If your "roots" involve not using your pinky to fret notes, then your roots lie in a very sloppy, undeveloped technique with a drastically limited reach. Blues involves scales as well...to be honest, I have NO idea WHAT you're talking about here...whatsoever.
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02/29/2004 6:08 am
The first few years I played guitar I avoided using and therefore strengthening my pinky and I'm still suffering the consequences. Strong pinkies are always a good thing, weak or unused pinkies are going to hurt you.

That's a funny word, pinky.
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02/29/2004 9:31 pm
Originally posted by Jolly McJollyson
If your "roots" involve not using your pinky to fret notes, then your roots lie in a very sloppy, undeveloped technique with a drastically limited reach. Blues involves scales as well...to be honest, I have NO idea WHAT you're talking about here...whatsoever.


You're right, my roots do lie in a sloppy, undeveloped (? ..) technique. But not so much with a drastically limited reach. Everybody's under the impression that there's one perfect way of playing and are all following the same path as those (2 or 3) guitar greats out there. There is no perfect way of playing pal, and I started playing with my pinky finger not because Malmsteen or Gilbert uses it, but because it just naturally occured that way after a bit. I could name off quite a few players who don't use their pinky or hold their guitar up like a classical guitar and who are amazing. I play that way now though because I've realized the potential.

I'd comment about the scales remark too but I'm sure you knew what I meant. ... OK I meant scales other than the pent. box. The root of all rock.

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