Once I read something about harmonizing and that it's done in 3rds and 5ths. Can anyone explain that to me?
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Once I read something about harmonizing and that it's done in 3rds and 5ths. Can anyone explain that to me?
Once I read something about harmonizing and that it's done in 3rds and 5ths. Can anyone explain that to me?
# 1
Harmonizing in 3rd is playing the third note above what something else is playing. So if someone else is playing A in A minor, C would be the third. Same with fifths, the fifth would be E if something else was playing A.
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# 3
But remember harmonizing isn't always done in 3rds and 5ths, that is the most common, since 3 note chords are made up by the root, third and fifth.
You can harmonize in all sorts of intervals. One of my favorite is the 6th (often used in jazz music).
You can harmonize in all sorts of intervals. One of my favorite is the 6th (often used in jazz music).
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# 4
yeap - and try not to use one and the same intervall to harmonize a whole melodyline - like harmonizing all in minor thirds. i mean - you are free to do whatever you want after all *LOL* so no rules, but generally it sounds better to switch between all sorts of intervals - this will create some sort of counterpoint.
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I may be totally wrong now, but: Harmozing in 5th:s, shouldn't that be the same as playing a bounch of power chords?
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# 7
Yeah, that would be the same. I got that idea myself too. Try to record yourself playing a few notes in E minor or any key you like. Then record again, but this time, you play the note that's 5 notes up in the scale you're using. You'll recognize the sound. However, as you understand, it wouldn't be exactly the same, because on one guitar when you play a power chord you get that crunchy sound as there are several strings in motion. Because of this, the sound will be cleaner/clearer when you record it the way I explained.
# 8
Yes it would be the same as doing power chords - but - if you are harmonizing out of a scale it will not always be this way....
Lets take a look at a major scale (how about C?)
C D E F G A B C
the fifth above C is "G"
D - A
E - B
F - C
G - D
A - E
B - F
But the thing is.... a B power chord is B and F#
"F" is a flat five... which gives it a diminished sound (listen to "Black Sabbath" by Black Sabbath to get the idea)
When harmonizing from a scale, a whole new venue opens up.
But generally, fifths are not flat in the majority of the standard modes, so it aint that big o deal.
Lets take a look at a major scale (how about C?)
C D E F G A B C
the fifth above C is "G"
D - A
E - B
F - C
G - D
A - E
B - F
But the thing is.... a B power chord is B and F#
"F" is a flat five... which gives it a diminished sound (listen to "Black Sabbath" by Black Sabbath to get the idea)
When harmonizing from a scale, a whole new venue opens up.
But generally, fifths are not flat in the majority of the standard modes, so it aint that big o deal.
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# 9
Okay.
How far can you take it? Extremly harmonizings would be like 3-4 guitars?
How far can you take it? Extremly harmonizings would be like 3-4 guitars?
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# 10
i started to record "Oh Fortuna" by Carl Orff (Carmina burana) with 24 guitars. :) its a bi*ch to mix em *LOL*
but 4 guitars usually sound very nice.
but 4 guitars usually sound very nice.
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I'd use B major to see the relations:
B C# D# E F# G# A#
If you check out the major scale of the root chord, note or what ever you're working with, you'll find it out!
B C# D# E F# G# A#
If you check out the major scale of the root chord, note or what ever you're working with, you'll find it out!
# 13
Originally posted by John O'Carroll
The fifth of B is F#, not F.
C D E F G A B = C maj scale
G A B C D E F# = G maj scale
Did you read my post at all man?
That's exactly what I was saying....
Was that "F" is a flat five to B....
So if you are harmonizing out JUST ONE of the modes (and working with just that scale) then you have that one wrong note...
[Edited by Rrhoads154 on 02-20-2004 at 09:58 AM]
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# 14
Harmonizing in 5th's is playing the fifth note in a scale above a given tone. So if you had a melody in C major, and you played B. You would play five notes (letters) above B. B,C,D,E,F. You would play F, not F#. Harmonizing in fifths doesn't mean play a power chord or a perfect fifth. You could play F# but that would have a stronger chance of sounding wrong since F# is not in the key of C major.
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Thank you noticingthemistake! that's the point I was trying to get across!
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# 16
I dig the sound when harmozing 2 steps above the notes
think of the sound for the riff in the blue oyster cult song "i'm burnin for you"
think of the sound for the riff in the blue oyster cult song "i'm burnin for you"
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