flamenco
can anyone give me the names of a few good flamenco songs or players? because i would like to listen to this style and i dont know were to start
# 1
Yeah, it's real hard to get exposed to this type of music if you live outside of Spain, you have to do a lot of research. Fortunately there's a plethra of information available on flamenco on the web.
Paco de Lucia and Sabicas are probably the 2 most famous Flamenco guitar players...and righteously so (there amazing!). Tomatito is pretty well known. Juan Martin has a lot of great instructional books/videos out on Flamenco.
The songs are named after the type of Flamenco form that they follow. There's something like 24 different type of Flamenco song/rhythmic forms, the most common being Sevilla, Alegria, Buleria, and Rhumba.
It takes a lot of time to fully understand this music, and especially play it correctly. It really is a very cool musical art form like no other.
Paco de Lucia and Sabicas are probably the 2 most famous Flamenco guitar players...and righteously so (there amazing!). Tomatito is pretty well known. Juan Martin has a lot of great instructional books/videos out on Flamenco.
The songs are named after the type of Flamenco form that they follow. There's something like 24 different type of Flamenco song/rhythmic forms, the most common being Sevilla, Alegria, Buleria, and Rhumba.
It takes a lot of time to fully understand this music, and especially play it correctly. It really is a very cool musical art form like no other.
# 2
I have seen a Flamenco performance with 3 guitarists and 4 dancers last year in Spain. I was stunned by the killing guitar riffs. I just love it.
I loaned some books from the library here to start off with some basic flamenco tango.
This is realy making you wish you can fingerpick like madness!!!
I play with my fingernails.. so all my nails on the picking hand are long enough to pick wiht... is that traditional for flamenco? some guys say it is and some think it should be your own opinion.. So is there a standard? I love picking with my tumb nail gives a real killer Em chord :P
I loaned some books from the library here to start off with some basic flamenco tango.
This is realy making you wish you can fingerpick like madness!!!
I play with my fingernails.. so all my nails on the picking hand are long enough to pick wiht... is that traditional for flamenco? some guys say it is and some think it should be your own opinion.. So is there a standard? I love picking with my tumb nail gives a real killer Em chord :P
# 3
It is a combination of nail/finger. You'll fine you can play faster and get an edgier sound using the nails...but you'll be able to produce more volume w/the finger.
Classical players use about 75% finger 25% nail....with flamenco it's more like 50 / 50.
Classical players use about 75% finger 25% nail....with flamenco it's more like 50 / 50.
# 4
my nails are so long whenever I play with a pick my nails are scretching on the guitar.. gives a nasty sound I hate :(
I also like to play some classical stuff...
So which nails are long? thats standard to or also your own preference?
Only my Indexfinger nail isnt long, that will never grow long too btw whenever I pick sometimes i miss the pick and use the index instead lol :P
I also like to play some classical stuff...
So which nails are long? thats standard to or also your own preference?
Only my Indexfinger nail isnt long, that will never grow long too btw whenever I pick sometimes i miss the pick and use the index instead lol :P
# 5
So which nails are long? thats standard to or also your own preference?
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All 5 fingers of the right hand are used....you will need the nails for the rasgueos techniques.
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All 5 fingers of the right hand are used....you will need the nails for the rasgueos techniques.
# 6
I like the works of Al Dimiola...
Check out this page and play the Elegant Gypsy album and the click on Mediterranean Sundance. Guitar playing here.
http://entertainment.msn.com/album/Default.aspx?album=111898
CHECK OUT THIS SITE:
http://www.flamenco-world.com/magazine/articulos/introduccion/flamenco.htm
this is my site:
http://groups.msn.com/GuitarPage/homepage.msnw
Check out this page and play the Elegant Gypsy album and the click on Mediterranean Sundance. Guitar playing here.
http://entertainment.msn.com/album/Default.aspx?album=111898
CHECK OUT THIS SITE:
http://www.flamenco-world.com/magazine/articulos/introduccion/flamenco.htm
this is my site:
http://groups.msn.com/GuitarPage/homepage.msnw
http://groups.msn.com/GuitarPage
# 7
Al is cool (a big influence on me in my teenage yrs) but is hardly flamenco.
Mediterranean sundance is a duet with one of Flamencos finest talent, Paco de Lucia...who, in my opinion, kicks Als butt on this track.
Mediterranean sundance is a duet with one of Flamencos finest talent, Paco de Lucia...who, in my opinion, kicks Als butt on this track.
# 8
Hola aficionados!
In flamenco, rythms (las compas) are quiet important. I think it's important for you to listen at the beginning the different falsetas play by flamenco players (los tocaores) in order to understand and learn the different rythms characteristics to the soleares, bulerias, tarrantas,farruca,granainas,alegrias...
You also must developp some particular techniques like rasgueados three and five strokes,alzapua, marote, tremolos...It will be easier for you to learn flamenco if you are a strong classical or fingerstyle technique...
El tocaor
In flamenco, rythms (las compas) are quiet important. I think it's important for you to listen at the beginning the different falsetas play by flamenco players (los tocaores) in order to understand and learn the different rythms characteristics to the soleares, bulerias, tarrantas,farruca,granainas,alegrias...
You also must developp some particular techniques like rasgueados three and five strokes,alzapua, marote, tremolos...It will be easier for you to learn flamenco if you are a strong classical or fingerstyle technique...
El tocaor
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The marote is another distinct form of rasgueado which is produced by the wrist.It consists of one upward motion and two downward motions...It's more used by new tocaores who don't used at all the little finger ring.
El tocaor
El tocaor
# 11
The thumb is quite important in "new" rasgueados and triplets is more used than 5 strokes...
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# 13
Hola!
You mean compas?
compas is the beat,rhythm, measure of flamenco.
Yes you have a distinctive compas for tangos close to tanguillos and Rumba...
First you have diffrent form of palos:you have the cante jondo(sigiriyas,solea,tientos,cante intermedio...),the cante intermedio with bulerias and the cante chico(alegrias,farruca,fandango,sevillana...)
You have two main compas families in flamenco...The tango belongs to the first one :2/4,4/4 with other palos like farruca,tientos,taranto,tanguillo,garrotin,rumba...
The second family of compas refers to the 3/4,6/8 forms with palos like bulerias,soleares,alegrias,fandangos,malaguena...
All flamenco compas is composed by 12 beats with a particular accent for the different palos(bulerias,soleares...)
Saludos!
El Tocaor eltocaor@lycos.com
You mean compas?
compas is the beat,rhythm, measure of flamenco.
Yes you have a distinctive compas for tangos close to tanguillos and Rumba...
First you have diffrent form of palos:you have the cante jondo(sigiriyas,solea,tientos,cante intermedio...),the cante intermedio with bulerias and the cante chico(alegrias,farruca,fandango,sevillana...)
You have two main compas families in flamenco...The tango belongs to the first one :2/4,4/4 with other palos like farruca,tientos,taranto,tanguillo,garrotin,rumba...
The second family of compas refers to the 3/4,6/8 forms with palos like bulerias,soleares,alegrias,fandangos,malaguena...
All flamenco compas is composed by 12 beats with a particular accent for the different palos(bulerias,soleares...)
Saludos!
El Tocaor eltocaor@lycos.com
# 14
O.k.
I understand the Tango form is in 4/4...but how is the 12 count incorporated into that..are you just counting 1/4 notes, so that the 12 count compas will repeat every 3 measures? Which beats are getting the accent?
I understand the Tango form is in 4/4...but how is the 12 count incorporated into that..are you just counting 1/4 notes, so that the 12 count compas will repeat every 3 measures? Which beats are getting the accent?
# 15
Well,for all the palos you have a phrasing of 12 beats as you said.You have mainly 3 forms of accentuation according to the palos:
-accents on the 3,6,8,10,12 beats
-accents on the 1,3,5,8,11 beats
-accents on the 1,4,7,9,11 beats
It's particular for tango.In most of cases when you play tango you don't begin on the first beat"contre-temps".You have an accent on the 2,between the 3 and 4, on the 5
I don't know if you have ever performed tangos but the accents are alaways mentioned on the music.
Check Astor Piazzola tango's"la muerte del angel" or "verano porteno",very cool stuff to play...
Tocaores don't play at all tangos.Tango wasn't a music imagined to guitar but more for the bandoneon to go with the dancers.It belongs to latin america culture like other palos(rumba...).The main tangos or milonga I played are Piazzola and Cardosso ones and not from tocaores...
Sorry for my english,it's difficult to explain in an other tongue than my mother one...
Saludos
El tocaor.
-accents on the 3,6,8,10,12 beats
-accents on the 1,3,5,8,11 beats
-accents on the 1,4,7,9,11 beats
It's particular for tango.In most of cases when you play tango you don't begin on the first beat"contre-temps".You have an accent on the 2,between the 3 and 4, on the 5
I don't know if you have ever performed tangos but the accents are alaways mentioned on the music.
Check Astor Piazzola tango's"la muerte del angel" or "verano porteno",very cool stuff to play...
Tocaores don't play at all tangos.Tango wasn't a music imagined to guitar but more for the bandoneon to go with the dancers.It belongs to latin america culture like other palos(rumba...).The main tangos or milonga I played are Piazzola and Cardosso ones and not from tocaores...
Sorry for my english,it's difficult to explain in an other tongue than my mother one...
Saludos
El tocaor.
# 16
Thank You!
It seems the 3,6,8,10,12 accents are the predominate basis for most of Flamenco.
Off to my 1st Paco de Lucia concert in 25 days..can't wait!
It seems the 3,6,8,10,12 accents are the predominate basis for most of Flamenco.
Off to my 1st Paco de Lucia concert in 25 days..can't wait!
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