pinch harmonics?


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01/03/2004 4:21 pm
This is like a artificial harmonics with vibrato? That's what I get from reading people's explaination from the tricksarchive.
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01/03/2004 8:27 pm
i thought they were the same thing. Just picking the string and letting your skin on your thumb just touch the string. Which is an artificial harmonic and also can be called a pinch harmonic. Thats what i thought. Oh well, as long as i can do them :)
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01/03/2004 9:10 pm
Originally posted by Death55
i thought they were the same thing. Just picking the string and letting your skin on your thumb just touch the string. Which is an artificial harmonic and also can be called a pinch harmonic. Thats what i thought. Oh well, as long as i can do them :)


Still don't know really. I was wondering what the "pinch" comes in. Ah well. I use that all the time and it owns. Not really Zakk Wylde:ish yet but I'm getting there =)
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01/04/2004 2:07 am
Do a search on this topic. It has already been covered before. No, artificial harmonics are nothing similar to pinch harmonics. They're completely different. Artificial harmonics are created anywhere on the fretboard by fretting with one hand while simultaneously using your index finger and thumb of your picking hand to touch the harmonic interval while plucking the string. If that doesn't make sense, it's because it's a rather hard concept to explain without visual aid. Point is, pinch harmonics and artificial harmonics are way different.
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01/04/2004 9:25 pm
Originally posted by finger_cruncher
Point is, pinch harmonics and artificial harmonics are way different.

I've just looked pinch harmonics up on the forums and from the description i got it seems they are exactly the same as pinch harmonics ! Both where you play a note and let the edge of your thumb touch the string slightly.
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01/04/2004 9:27 pm
I meant pinch harmonics are exactly the same as artificial harmonics not pinch harmonics are the same as pinch harmonics.
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01/04/2004 10:54 pm
I'm sorry, Death55, but you're wrong. This is a common misconception among guitarists, but pinch harmonics and artificial harmonics are two very different things. If you read that they are the same in a different thread, then those guys were wrong too. I've taken the time to draw a diagram explaining artificial harmonics. I really hope you appreciate this, as it took me quite a while to draw in MS Paint. lol. Here's the diagram:

http://www.electricblueseuphoria.com/DAB/artificialharmonics4dummies.jpg


Hope that helps. :)

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01/04/2004 11:37 pm
there's much debate about this all over the net. that's because both methods are an "artificial" harmonic, meaning they aren't a real harmonic. Officially, an artificial harmonic is where you fret a note and with your picking hand you use your index finger to lightly touch the string at another fret (ex. 12 frets above fretted note), while picking with your thumb. Pinch harmonics are where you dig in to the string with your thumb with your picking hand. Most guitar tab books will use these terms as I have described. However, if you say "artificial harmonics," many guitarists would interpret this as how I have described pinch harmonics. So it is best to clarify. :)

If anyone knows of any good examples of artificial harmonics please post artist - song name. I think Satriani has some stuff. For pinch harmonics, anything with Zakk Wylde.
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01/05/2004 6:49 am
Originally posted by finger_cruncher
I'm sorry, Death55, but you're wrong. This is a common misconception among guitarists, but pinch harmonics and artificial harmonics are two very different things. If you read that they are the same in a different thread, then those guys were wrong too. I've taken the time to draw a diagram explaining artificial harmonics. I really hope you appreciate this, as it took me quite a while to draw in MS Paint. lol. Here's the diagram:

Hope that helps. :)


Thank you! Finally this is clear to me. And yes, seems like I wasn't the only lost soul on this subject. It feels like a relief =) My day is already better. Thanks again!
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