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Eugene's Trick Bag
Just curious if anyone in this board had masteree Eugene's Bag Trick?
# 1
i used to be able to play it but i haven't done it for so long, i probably lost it.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.
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# 2
Yeah, I got that one down no sweat. But definitely have to keep it up in order to avoid becoming sloppy. You can find the tab anywhere on the web...I got mine from some UK guitar magazine.
# 3
I can play it with only 1 finger and with my eyes closed. And backwards too...
Nope. I tried to master it some, but I never worked on it that much ;)
Nope. I tried to master it some, but I never worked on it that much ;)
# 4
I got to where I could listen to it straight through, two out of threee attempts! :)
It's actually a classical piece (Paganini?), which has nothing to do with the Blues, so it doesn't really fit the movie, anyway. LOL
It's actually a classical piece (Paganini?), which has nothing to do with the Blues, so it doesn't really fit the movie, anyway. LOL
# 5
Originally posted by Lordathestrings
I got to where I could listen to it straight through, two out of threee attempts! :)
It's actually a classical piece (Paganini?), which has nothing to do with the Blues, so it doesn't really fit the movie, anyway. LOL
According to the credits in the CD inlay its: 'Written by Steve Vai - A reprise of of "Turkish March" - arranged by William Kansengiser.' I cant locate a copy of the original or who the composer was though.
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# 6
Paganini wrote the original, it was his piece (Violin) and Vai just used it for a blues movie:S
# 7
It's mainly the th Caprice by Paganini... The Turkish March??? WTF? :)
# 8
yeah it was paganini's 5th caprice
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.
--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
# 9
I used to play it a bunch as a warmup, a little slower than the movie though. ;)
I havent played it in a few monthes so I've probably lost it. I should re-learn it and try to play at full speed.
I havent played it in a few monthes so I've probably lost it. I should re-learn it and try to play at full speed.
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# 10
I learned it years ago when in classical guitar lessons, actually I learned the 5th 9th and 24th. And a bit of the 7th and 10th. They're great violin pieces, and some good on guitar too (I recommend the elliot fisk version, he shreds them up completely).
In the movie, Ralph Macchio's part isn't recorded by Steve Vai I believe. I have guitar magazines at the time that mention some student at berklee that did it. I want to say it was an indian guy..
Its a fun piece though, when I play it on electric I usually play it around 150-160 bpm..what really amazes me is Joe stump who can play it at 180. Also Eliot Fisk that I mentioned earlier, plays it at over 200. Of course, he has 5 "picks" at his disposal, but still..
In the movie, Ralph Macchio's part isn't recorded by Steve Vai I believe. I have guitar magazines at the time that mention some student at berklee that did it. I want to say it was an indian guy..
Its a fun piece though, when I play it on electric I usually play it around 150-160 bpm..what really amazes me is Joe stump who can play it at 180. Also Eliot Fisk that I mentioned earlier, plays it at over 200. Of course, he has 5 "picks" at his disposal, but still..
# 11
I always wanted to hear the Elliot Fisk recording of the Caprices, I hear there amazing, can never seem to find it though.
I learned the 5th all the way through, took a good 9months worth of work to get it all memorized and up to speed.
I believe (or I was Told) he uses Paganinis 24th caprice played backwards for the movie.
I learned the 5th all the way through, took a good 9months worth of work to get it all memorized and up to speed.
I believe (or I was Told) he uses Paganinis 24th caprice played backwards for the movie.
# 12
It's always funny how much stories are told around VAI's stuff :)
That's what's great about the guy, he has spread rumors about himself and his tunes, it's quite amazing :)
That's what's great about the guy, he has spread rumors about himself and his tunes, it's quite amazing :)
# 13
Originally posted by chris mood
I always wanted to hear the Elliot Fisk recording of the Caprices, I hear there amazing, can never seem to find it though.
I learned the 5th all the way through, took a good 9months worth of work to get it all memorized and up to speed.
I believe (or I was Told) he uses Paganinis 24th caprice played backwards for the movie.
becker does a pretty fast version as well, but i can't remember the temp offhand
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.
--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
# 14
Originally posted by lalimacefolle
The Turkish March??? WTF? :)
Turkish March is by Mozart, and I believe you will find it in the soundtrack to "The Truman Show."
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# 15
Becker plays it a bit slower than Joe Stump, around 160 bpm. He plays it up an octave though, so it very well may be harder there.
[quote]I always wanted to hear the Elliot Fisk recording of the Caprices, I hear there amazing, can never seem to find it though. [quote]
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[quote]I always wanted to hear the Elliot Fisk recording of the Caprices, I hear there amazing, can never seem to find it though. [quote]
Musical Heritage Society my friend! I get tooons of hard to find albums from them.
# 16
wait and see when my guitar is done.. then i can play all that stuff on original pitch! MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH
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# 18
I can play it..kinda... i havnt cracked the ending yet.. cant seem to get it to sound right (anyone know how to get 'that' note out of an ibanez RG let me know. none of the pickups are quite right as fretting points.) How do you guys play the last chords? (yeah i know he overdubbed them but i adore that last manic whine on that chord - i wanna do it!)
Interesting thing though.. i love that movie so much!
Someone posted earlier in this thread that the Paganini thing doesnt fit into the movie very well - classical Vs blues kinda thing. I remeber reading in a wide range of places when i was into classical stuff more than i am now that paganini was rumoured to have done the whole selling soul to the devil thing by his contemporaries. Anyone else ever hear that? I know a fair few folks said the same thing about Rob. Johnson apparently.. anyway, theres your tie in :)
Interesting thing though.. i love that movie so much!
Someone posted earlier in this thread that the Paganini thing doesnt fit into the movie very well - classical Vs blues kinda thing. I remeber reading in a wide range of places when i was into classical stuff more than i am now that paganini was rumoured to have done the whole selling soul to the devil thing by his contemporaries. Anyone else ever hear that? I know a fair few folks said the same thing about Rob. Johnson apparently.. anyway, theres your tie in :)
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# 19
Like Franz Lizt, Paginini was also a masterfull performer who had a lot of tricks. For instance, he would purposefully saw into the strings with the bow while playing, breaking the strings and finishing the piece on one string. Both were rumoured to be posessed by the Devil. Franz Lizt ended up joining the monestary in his later years, and Paginini gave up practicing by the age of 30.
[Edited by chris mood on 09-12-2003 at 11:44 PM]
[Edited by chris mood on 09-12-2003 at 11:44 PM]
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