If I leave here tomorrow,
Will you still remember me?
Will you still remember me?
"Thou shall not" gone!
I'm not black, nor white, but I would just like to point out that everyone should have equal rights to schools and crap like that. Judging by race is gonna put everyone against eachother(even if it is facts and opinions).
# 1
Rask, have you heard of the University of Missouri??
If not, let me tell you a story.
A fine basketball athlete (African American named Ricky Clemons) was accepted to school there. He was an amazing basketball player, but one day things turned sour. He was charged with beating his girlfriend. Further investigation in to the case noted that Clemons, NEVER FINISHED high school. He was still accepted to the school and given a free ride for athletics.
What's wrong with that picture?
And guess, what?? I just read they let him back into school.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1604146
If not, let me tell you a story.
A fine basketball athlete (African American named Ricky Clemons) was accepted to school there. He was an amazing basketball player, but one day things turned sour. He was charged with beating his girlfriend. Further investigation in to the case noted that Clemons, NEVER FINISHED high school. He was still accepted to the school and given a free ride for athletics.
What's wrong with that picture?
And guess, what?? I just read they let him back into school.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1604146
Sometimes I hit notes only dogs can hear.
# 2
It should be brought to everyones attention that "a better education" concerns the person,not the building or area(colimbine anyone?).In fact,kids that go to overpopulated,understaffed schools have a great curriculum advantage in that most likley high standards are not often required.Ive seen "dumb" kids graduate where they would have failed 20 times over in a more demanding private/well funded school.
It should also be noted that "black communities" are just that.Separated from other races by there OWN choice.If theres a bad neighborhood,it was created by its occupants.
This is harsh and not my own words,but ive heard many times "that neighborhood used to be good until the (insert your minority of choice)people moved in.
I'm a white person...and I cant walk 3/4ths of the streets anywhere in the area simply because I'm white.
There is such a thing as reverse racism and its more DIRECT than any lame clan meeting or segragation sign.
I think "the white mans debt" has been paid when a white kid can be jumped by ten black/puerto rican persons simply for being white.
This problem is much larger than some orchard grove in georgia where a black guy gets harrased by the local pigs(dosnt make it right).
And another thing,a great majority of black people want nothing to do with the phrase african american,exept when it involves benefits.I wish being considerd caucasian came with perks.I'm not even middle class and most white people I know arnt middle class!I make less than 10,000 a year but I couldnt get a free college education,good grades or not!
If I walked down to a black,hispanic,asian e.c.t "area" and asked for a job as a bag boy where 9 of 12 baggers arnt white,got denied the job and sued,do you think I would get the job(let alone a settelment!)?
Theres a black entertainment channel,black specific clothes(fubu=FOR US BY US)and a black college fund...If nobodys noticed,segragation is still pretty bad.
And its by the "minority's" choice!
(for anyone who would think I'm racsist,my best friend is black...)
It should also be noted that "black communities" are just that.Separated from other races by there OWN choice.If theres a bad neighborhood,it was created by its occupants.
This is harsh and not my own words,but ive heard many times "that neighborhood used to be good until the (insert your minority of choice)people moved in.
I'm a white person...and I cant walk 3/4ths of the streets anywhere in the area simply because I'm white.
There is such a thing as reverse racism and its more DIRECT than any lame clan meeting or segragation sign.
I think "the white mans debt" has been paid when a white kid can be jumped by ten black/puerto rican persons simply for being white.
This problem is much larger than some orchard grove in georgia where a black guy gets harrased by the local pigs(dosnt make it right).
And another thing,a great majority of black people want nothing to do with the phrase african american,exept when it involves benefits.I wish being considerd caucasian came with perks.I'm not even middle class and most white people I know arnt middle class!I make less than 10,000 a year but I couldnt get a free college education,good grades or not!
If I walked down to a black,hispanic,asian e.c.t "area" and asked for a job as a bag boy where 9 of 12 baggers arnt white,got denied the job and sued,do you think I would get the job(let alone a settelment!)?
Theres a black entertainment channel,black specific clothes(fubu=FOR US BY US)and a black college fund...If nobodys noticed,segragation is still pretty bad.
And its by the "minority's" choice!
(for anyone who would think I'm racsist,my best friend is black...)
Try once,fail twice...
# 3
White men can’t jump, white men have no rhythm and white men are no good at sports, I think we should be getting a free education! :D
# 4
# 5
Chuck-
That's 100% true; my brother is in College, and he couldn't get a scholership, all he could get is "good financing on student loans". He averaged a 3.400 GPA; we were middle class; maybe the high end of middle class. That is, my parents. My brother is lower-class, makes about $9,000 a year (he took a year off after high school and got a job). I don't see the phone coming off the hook for the government willing to pay his tuition.
My mom just got a job at a College; I will be going there, free tuition, because my mom is a Head Member on the staff, and a huge asset to the college. Is that fair? I think it's fair, at least more fair than giving free education to people because of their race.
White people live in the slums too, and when their children fail, they simply become Trailer Trash. No help from the government; that would be racist, right? Unless you count Welfare, which is available to everyone.
Nobody forces you to live in a certain place; that's why we live in the supposedly 'free world'. This is a democracy, one of the only countries where you can be dirt poor, and end up loaded with cash. One of my friends had a grandfather that was extremely poor (didn't say what his job was, if he had one); the grandfather's son didn't want to live in that situation, so he worked hard, depsite living in ****ty conditions, and became a doctor. Now he makes $450,000.000 a year, and they live in an extremely large house.
"Was he white?" - Does it ****in matter?
Black people should get the same student loans that everyone else gets; After all, it means you'll pay them off after you leave the college, and have found the high-paying job you want; What's wrong with that?
~Incidents
[Edited by Incidents Happen on 08-30-2003 at 01:20 PM]
That's 100% true; my brother is in College, and he couldn't get a scholership, all he could get is "good financing on student loans". He averaged a 3.400 GPA; we were middle class; maybe the high end of middle class. That is, my parents. My brother is lower-class, makes about $9,000 a year (he took a year off after high school and got a job). I don't see the phone coming off the hook for the government willing to pay his tuition.
My mom just got a job at a College; I will be going there, free tuition, because my mom is a Head Member on the staff, and a huge asset to the college. Is that fair? I think it's fair, at least more fair than giving free education to people because of their race.
White people live in the slums too, and when their children fail, they simply become Trailer Trash. No help from the government; that would be racist, right? Unless you count Welfare, which is available to everyone.
Nobody forces you to live in a certain place; that's why we live in the supposedly 'free world'. This is a democracy, one of the only countries where you can be dirt poor, and end up loaded with cash. One of my friends had a grandfather that was extremely poor (didn't say what his job was, if he had one); the grandfather's son didn't want to live in that situation, so he worked hard, depsite living in ****ty conditions, and became a doctor. Now he makes $450,000.000 a year, and they live in an extremely large house.
"Was he white?" - Does it ****in matter?
Black people should get the same student loans that everyone else gets; After all, it means you'll pay them off after you leave the college, and have found the high-paying job you want; What's wrong with that?
~Incidents
[Edited by Incidents Happen on 08-30-2003 at 01:20 PM]
# 6
Guys i think you should move this discussion to americannaziparty.com, if that site still exists.
We are here to talk about music, guitars, etc
If you want to discuss your racist theories, or to tell us how much you dislike anyone whos not like you go to some other place..
We are here to talk about music, guitars, etc
If you want to discuss your racist theories, or to tell us how much you dislike anyone whos not like you go to some other place..
"They think im crazy..
but i know better.
It is not I who am crazy.
It is I who am mad.."
ren hoek
but i know better.
It is not I who am crazy.
It is I who am mad.."
ren hoek
# 7