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08/09/2003 12:41 am
How come some guitars sound good and others dont. Ive bought 5 Gibson Les Pauls, a couple of Classics and a couple of Standards but the classic I got today just sounds miles better than the others! Its unreal! How come this can happen?

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08/09/2003 1:01 am
That’s the one you don't sell !

I think it is due to different type of wood, age, how and where the axe has been Kept but most of all the bits of wood it was carved form !

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08/09/2003 3:53 am
The one you like was probably built on a Monday, all the others were probably built late Friday afternoon, really when you are talking mass produced guitars, sometimes all the right bits just fall in place, and after you've owned that many Les Paul's you are bound to get one that outshines the rest............
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08/09/2003 3:57 am
That is the problem with buying mass-produced guitars; unpredictability. You don't get that problem with custom guitars, you can simply tell them to get the highest quality wood, and add it to your bill.

You'll pay alot more for a custom, though.....:D

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08/09/2003 6:41 am
Originally posted by Incidents Happen
... You'll pay alot more for a custom, though.....:D ...
,,, which is why I'd be more likely to make my own. I've got most of the skills and most of the tools, and for the price of a high-end custom, I could afford enough materials to make a mistake or two along the way.
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08/09/2003 5:06 pm
Originally posted by Incidents Happen

You'll pay alot more for a custom, though.....:D


Well, maybe not, in france, buying a Les Paul Standard costs the same price as a luthier made guitar.
Of course, the latter one has no 'gibson' logo, no "breathtaking" factor, but it sounds the way you want it to sound, and you get your money's worth...
Not that I mean that Gibsons are overprived planks of woods... er... Well... :)
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08/09/2003 5:08 pm
Originally posted by lalimacefolle
... Not that I mean that Gibsons are overpriced planks of woods... er... Well... :)
:D :D :D
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08/09/2003 5:37 pm
Originally posted by lalimacefolle
Originally posted by Incidents Happen

You'll pay alot more for a custom, though.....:D


Well, maybe not, in france, buying a Les Paul Standard costs the same price as a luthier made guitar.
Of course, the latter one has no 'gibson' logo, no "breathtaking" factor, but it sounds the way you want it to sound, and you get your money's worth...
Not that I mean that Gibsons are overprived planks of woods... er... Well... :)


I've seen some French custom guitars, and alot of the ones i've seen were much more breathtaking than a gibson les paul. I saw one that had a carved Dragon onto the whole body, and well i'm not sure if it was made in france, i know it was made in Europe, by a luthier.

I was suprised to see you back here, lal. It's been a while!

~Incidents
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08/09/2003 9:02 pm
alot of the sound has to do with the wood..it could have been better quality wood or a differnt type..like with acoustics and the wood makin all the difference
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08/09/2003 10:20 pm
Originally posted by Incidents Happen
I was suprised to see you back here, lal. It's been a while![/B]


Yeah, I've been quite busy :)
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08/09/2003 10:35 pm
How does the wood make a difference in the sound?
The sound out of your amp is produced by picking up an electrical signal from the pickups. If anything would make a difference in the sound wouldn't it be more likely to be caused by the pickup?
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08/09/2003 10:56 pm
The wood quality affects the kind of harmonics you get through the pickups, and the sustain.
Let's say you have a wire between two VERY hard posts. If you get the wire to vibrate, it might fo so for a long time. But if one of the post is made of plastic, the vibration will be shorter (that's a guitar's sustain) Then, if the post is very thin, the sound won't be very loud, if the post if hollow, and big, it'll sound much "larger", even though the wire vibrates in the same way... That's the quality of the wood.
Everyone's looking for the best wood possible (there's even a variety of woods called "tone woods") and some will pay great amount of money only for the look of a perfect AAAAA flametop on a les paul (what does it sound like? well, check out the flames on that one...)
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08/10/2003 5:54 am
Wood, just to follow up on Lal's post, is more of a tone modifier than a end all, be all of tone, even within a given species some trees will yield a better sounding plank, I think clarity of the the grain and density account for that and their seems to be some evidence for it, but, one thing I think we should always remember is that guitars are the sum of all their parts, good wood has to be mated with equally as good construction and hardware or it is just wasted..........................
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