Why bands bust


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09/18/2003 2:17 am
That's because it's hard to find a good drummer.

Guitar players are a dime a dozen, drummers and good bassists are not. Well at least in my area.
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09/18/2003 2:49 am
Even if they're not that good, it's the chemistry and the attitude that really counts in the end. (I guess)
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09/18/2003 7:20 am
Drummers aint musicians *LOL* (jk)

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09/25/2003 1:51 am
Originally posted by Hootayah

With me it was usually the same thing.
6 months looking for members...most of it trying to find a keyboard player and a vocalist with their own p.a.
6 months of practicing in somebody's basement, maybe twice a week cause that's all anybody could manage.
6 months of looking to book gigs and not being able to find any and not being able to get a booking agent.
6 months to realize that all the band really knows what to play are cover tunes and nobody can write after all.
Then somewhere about 2 years into it either somebody gets discouraged and quits or personality conflicts cause a huge blowup.
Then the whole process starts over again with the next band.
After about 25 years of this you finally resign yourself to the fact that even though you can play better than van halen, you're never going to get signed, or hear yourself on the radio or even play live in front of more than 300 people and you yell at your kids, kick the dog and crawl back into bed with your fat wife.


That may be the saddest thing I've ever read in my entire life. Seriously.

Because, and here comes a rant and please listen!!! :) , but I'm in the point in my life where I don't wanna do anything but guitar. I go to comm. college but I don't want to. I want to dedicate myself to music. A big chunk of that inspiration? I don't want to be a working class nobody (this may seem cold, but it's the truth) like my mom. I love her but I don't want to have kids and be stuck and have my life ruined and over. I can't ****ing take that. I'd want to die... really.

But getting back on topic. I have yet to be in a band but that's all I think about and I always think of ideas on what to do, stage shows, outfits, song titles, CD titles, etc. I know a bass player, too. I guess I should try to stay good friends with him, huh? Since bass players are hard to find? :D LOL

But, I can see the main thing that'd drive me away from a band I would be in and that'd be creative differences. Yeah, do the usual: Play a few original songs but mostly covers. The covers might be the hardest thing to agree on. Me and the bass players love Metallica. Love them, love them, love them. He can already play "Creeping Death" and wants me to play that so we can jam but I actually (Yay me, btw!!! :D) just finished fine-tuning the learnings of the last few sections of "Enter Sandman" so I know I can play that perfectly!!

Oh, and Psycho Amram, I know you don't wanna be the vocalist but it could turn out for the best. James Hetfield sang when Metallica started because no one else wanted to and they tried to get John Bush who played for Armored Saint back then I believe, but he didn't want to and I think it worked out pretty good. :D
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09/25/2003 5:29 am
My band broke up because half of its members went off to college before the other half, and that other half was me and my twin brother. That sucked.

It's kind of funny. I'm twins with a good bass player, all my friends sing well, and I still haven't been in a band since the first one.

Darn those drummers :(
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09/30/2003 1:32 am
Originally posted by Azrael
Drummers aint musicians *LOL* (jk)

No reason to say, "just kidding." Drummers aren't musicians. They're like orderleys or nurses to our doctors. Anyone with basic rythm can bang on a circle with a stick and make it sound good. And being a fast drummer takes athletic ability, not musical prowess. A real musician plays notes, not WHAM BAM SLAM PHIL GRAHM! Seriously though, it usually is the drummers fault. They're all like (high pitched falsetto) "Ooooo I'm a drummer! I smack little drums with a stick. I keep a good rythm, so that entitles me to mouth off to everyone else!

[Edited by Jolly McJollyson on 09-29-2003 at 08:38 PM]
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09/30/2003 2:09 am
Originally posted by Jolly McJollyson
Originally posted by Azrael
Drummers aint musicians *LOL* (jk)

No reason to say, "just kidding." Drummers aren't musicians. They're like orderleys or nurses to our doctors. Anyone with basic rythm can bang on a circle with a stick and make it sound good. And being a fast drummer takes athletic ability, not musical prowess. A real musician plays notes, not WHAM BAM SLAM PHIL GRAHM! Seriously though, it usually is the drummers fault. They're all like (high pitched falsetto) "Ooooo I'm a drummer! I smack little drums with a stick. I keep a good rythm, so that entitles me to mouth off to everyone else!

[Edited by Jolly McJollyson on 09-29-2003 at 08:38 PM]

Some drummers have musical talent, like arrangements and stuff. But ya otherwise they're just bangin' circles with wooden sticks. (Can anyone say caveman?)
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10/01/2003 12:26 am
I can "Me Drummer! Find Optimal woman. Hit in head with club!"
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10/03/2003 7:52 pm
I think you guys need to get out more, some of the finest musicians I've met are drummers. Either that or you are both just really unlucky and live in places where all the drummers suck.
Anywhooo....it doesn't matter what instrument you play, if you have a lousy attitude, no one wants to work with you. Thats why a lot of bands bust.
Just to further deflate your drummer theory, the most egotistical musicians I run into are usually other guitarists. :)


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10/03/2003 10:41 pm
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
I think you guys need to get out more, some of the finest musicians I've met are drummers. Either that or you are both just really unlucky and live in places where all the drummers suck.
Anywhooo....it doesn't matter what instrument you play, if you have a lousy attitude, no one wants to work with you. Thats why a lot of bands bust.
Just to further deflate your drummer theory, the most egotistical musicians I run into are usually other guitarists. :)


FYI, ALL drummers in my province suck. Well, except for three, but they're jerks!
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10/03/2003 10:50 pm
Which Province is that?
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10/03/2003 11:23 pm
Hell at least you can find a drummer. I can't find anyone worth a damn on anything here.
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10/04/2003 2:57 am
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
Which Province is that?


Manitoba.
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10/04/2003 1:24 pm
Its too bad you've found no good drummers out there.
Anywhooo, I'm from Ontario.

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10/05/2003 6:48 pm
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
Its too bad you've found no good drummers out there.
Anywhooo, I'm from Ontario.

Well we in the united states are proud of our terrible drummers Mr. Maple leaf.
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10/05/2003 6:58 pm
Originally posted by Jolly McJollyson
Well we in the united states are proud of our terrible drummers Mr. Maple leaf. [/B]


Alrighty then. :)
We mostly shun our terrible drummers here, or help them get better, whichever we feel like doing at the time really....

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10/05/2003 10:11 pm
Originally posted by Josh Redstone
We mostly shun our terrible drummers here, or help them get better, whichever we feel like doing at the time really....
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Whichever one occupies your time better than getting a cooler flag. And guns for your army. You know they've been needing those for years! (J/K);)
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10/06/2003 1:59 am
Originally posted by Jolly McJollyson
...Whichever one occupies your time better than getting a cooler flag. And guns for your army. You know they've been needing those for years! (J/K);)
As long as Ontario and Quebec keep electing socialist governments, we're all stuck with that sh!t. :p
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10/09/2003 3:01 am
You could move here. It's not like the border patrol will give you a hard time about it. Just learn how to say "About" correctly, and not to say "Eh"...man that sounds ridiculous. Seriously, though, our president's about as far as you get from socialism without stumbling on insane people, come on over neighbor!
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10/09/2003 3:46 am
Originally posted by Jolly McJollyson
... Just learn how to say "About" correctly, and not to say "Eh"...man that sounds ridiculous. Seriously, though, our president's about as far as you get from socialism without stumbling on insane people, come on over neighbor!
The only people I've ever heard saying 'aboot' were slack-jawed Americans who thought they were being funny. As for your president, I can sympathise with people who don't feel that he represents them. I admired Reagan, for his perception and resolve, but I think 'Dubya' has ethical problems only marginally less severe than his embarassing predecessor. I live in a country ruled by a mean-spirited, senile, dictatorial bully who mangles both of our official languages, so I recognise an embarrassing leader when I see one.
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