Minor pentatonic scale


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06/29/2023 7:49 am

In chapter 3 - tutorial 3 we learn the Minor Pentatonic Scale.


Next to Guiter Tricks I use https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales


However, the scale I learned is called there a Major Pentatonic Scale. So, which one is right? Minor or Major? Their Minor is different from yours.


Perhaps Guitar Tricks has a similar complete configuration to find quick all chords and scales. 


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06/29/2023 2:50 pm
#1 Originally Posted by: jvdburgt

In chapter 3 - tutorial 3 we learn the Minor Pentatonic Scale.


Next to Guiter Tricks I use https://www.all-guitar-chords.com/scales


However, the scale I learned is called there a Major Pentatonic Scale. So, which one is right? Minor or Major? Their Minor is different from yours.


Perhaps Guitar Tricks has a similar complete configuration to find quick all chords and scales. 

It's possible to play the same note in more than one place on the guitar.  As a result there are different fretboard layouts for the same notes & scales.  So, there are different patterns that can be used to achieve the same musical result.


If you show me exactly what pattern you are seeing on that site I can help explain it to you.


This tutorial covers both the theory & practice of the pentatonic major & pentatonic minor scales.


https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial/296


Hope that helps!


 


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06/29/2023 5:21 pm
#2 Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegel

It's possible to play the same note in more than one place on the guitar.  As a result there are different fretboard layouts for the same notes & scales.  So, there are different patterns that can be used to achieve the same musical result.


If you show me exactly what pattern you are seeing on that site I can help explain it to you.


This tutorial covers both the theory & practice of the pentatonic major & pentatonic minor scales.


https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial/296


Hope that helps!


 

There's a mistake in your lesson. the demonstrated scale in chapter 3, tutorial 3 dan further is'n't the minor pentatonic scale, but the major version.
See the link to my image:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6z3ovm28wojy5b/C%20pentatonic%20Major.png?dl=0


Also in your tools section the scale Anders Mouridsen is playing, is called there the major pentatonic scale, start in at the lower E snare in the 5 position.


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06/29/2023 5:56 pm
#3 Originally Posted by: jvdburgt

There's a mistake in your lesson. the demonstrated scale in chapter 3, tutorial 3 dan further is'n't the minor pentatonic scale, but the major version.
See the link to my image:


https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6z3ovm28wojy5b/C%20pentatonic%20Major.png?dl=0


Also in your tools section the scale Anders Mouridsen is playing, is called there the major pentatonic scale, start in at the lower E snare in the 5 position.

In that lesson Anders is playing the A minor pentatonic scale.  The scale image you linked is the C major pentatonic scale.


They contain the exact same notes because they are relative major & minor scales:  C major is the relative major of A minor, A minor is the relative minor of C major.


C pentatonic major notes & scale degrees:  c(1) - d(2) - e(major3) - g(5) - a(major6)


A pentatonic minor notes & scale degrees:  a(1) - c(minor3) - d(4) - e(5) - g(minor7)


Same notes, but different scale degrees.  But since they are the same notes they use the same pattern.



Same pattern (fretboard shape) but different scale degrees depending on if you want to think of them as major or minor which in turn depends on the musical context.  All of that is beyond the scope of that particular lesson which is essentially just getting you used to playing the fretboard pattern one note at a time.


I explain all of this (pentatonic patterns, relative major & minor) in this tutorial.


https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial/296


Hope that helps!


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06/29/2023 7:05 pm
#4 Originally Posted by: ChristopherSchlegel

In that lesson Anders is playing the A minor pentatonic scale.  The scale image you linked is the C major pentatonic scale.


They contain the exact same notes because they are relative major & minor scales:  C major is the relative major of A minor, A minor is the relative minor of C major.


C pentatonic major notes & scale degrees:  c(1) - d(2) - e(major3) - g(5) - a(major6)


A pentatonic minor notes & scale degrees:  a(1) - c(minor3) - d(4) - e(5) - g(minor7)


Same notes, but different scale degrees.  But since they are the same notes they use the same pattern.



Same pattern (fretboard shape) but different scale degrees depending on if you want to think of them as major or minor which in turn depends on the musical context.  All of that is beyond the scope of that particular lesson which is essentially just getting you used to playing the fretboard pattern one note at a time.


I explain all of this (pentatonic patterns, relative major & minor) in this tutorial.


https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial/296


Hope that helps!

A little bit confusing, but thx!


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06/29/2023 7:52 pm
#5 Originally Posted by: jvdburgt

A little bit confusing, but thx!

You're welcome!  It is a little bit of an advanced music theory concept beyond the scope of that particular lesson.  


Out of curiosity I used the site you linked to generate patterns for both scales.  


Here's the C pentatonic major with the root on the 8th fret E string (major 6th on the 5th fret).



Here's the A pentatonic minor with the root on the 5th fret E string (minor 3rd 8th fret).



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