masters of this technique are Tommy Emmanuel,Leo Kottke, Martin Taylor and Adrian Legg. when you hear or see these fellas play you find yourself looking around for other players hiding behind the curtains because they can sound like 3 playing at once. Ive seen both Martin T and Tommy E covering the Beatles 'Day Tripper' playing the original lead line with the thumb, doing the chord parts with (i think) the middle and index fingers and the melody line with the 4th and pinkie. awesome!
Shredding's all very fine but...
more impressive is the ability to play chord-based rhythms, melody lines and quite complex bass patterns AT THE SAME TIME...and often at speed.
masters of this technique are Tommy Emmanuel,Leo Kottke, Martin Taylor and Adrian Legg. when you hear or see these fellas play you find yourself looking around for other players hiding behind the curtains because they can sound like 3 playing at once. Ive seen both Martin T and Tommy E covering the Beatles 'Day Tripper' playing the original lead line with the thumb, doing the chord parts with (i think) the middle and index fingers and the melody line with the 4th and pinkie. awesome!
masters of this technique are Tommy Emmanuel,Leo Kottke, Martin Taylor and Adrian Legg. when you hear or see these fellas play you find yourself looking around for other players hiding behind the curtains because they can sound like 3 playing at once. Ive seen both Martin T and Tommy E covering the Beatles 'Day Tripper' playing the original lead line with the thumb, doing the chord parts with (i think) the middle and index fingers and the melody line with the 4th and pinkie. awesome!
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That is the ultimate Shred and my goal. To be able to play insanely fast and at the same time to be able to play rythmically like those guys (My weak point) In the last 2 years I have just gotten into those guys and wish I had gotten into them earlier) Let's just say that I am humbled by them. Heavy metal is cake compared to these guys.
I started learning guitar because of Randy Rhoads..but Yngwie J. Malmsteen is my biggest influence.
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The shred gbuitarist that comes closest to being able to be able to play both complex rythms and fast leads is Steve Vai. Mike Kineally (Being number 1) now that I think of it as well.
(I'm sure there are others).
(I'm sure there are others).
I started learning guitar because of Randy Rhoads..but Yngwie J. Malmsteen is my biggest influence.
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For years and years..all I ever wanted to be was like Yngwie, vai, Rhoads, etc. It was not till I got older that I saw I was limiting myself.
After I got out of that mode..I started to want to be just myself (Took me years to figure it out) And am branching off into different styles, yet not abandoning my old,(I could never do that..that's a part of who I am as a musician)
After I got out of that mode..I started to want to be just myself (Took me years to figure it out) And am branching off into different styles, yet not abandoning my old,(I could never do that..that's a part of who I am as a musician)
I started learning guitar because of Randy Rhoads..but Yngwie J. Malmsteen is my biggest influence.
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Also a technique that i think is more difficult than sredding is being able to play fast(above 140bpm) funky licks. Kind of like John Fusciante of RHCP but A LOT faster. It was quite easy for me to learn to shred at speeds about 200bpm but when I try to play in that funky manner I can go like 150 bpm and only for about a minute...after that I get relly sloppy
The world is loaded, it's lit to pop, nobody is gonna stop!
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If I could pick a guitarist who could do everything, it would be Eric Johnson. He does the rhythm/lead thing and shreddy stuff. Plus he writes good songs. He's like the apple and orange put together, an apploarnge! :)
And God said, 'Let there be rock!'
-And it was good
-And it was good
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I forgot Eric..dunno why as i have 'Ah via musicom' and 'Venus isle' in my collection. i agree. of all rock virtuosos he's probably the greatest all rounder. shredding, country-style picking, fingerpicking....
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malmsteen and becker can do both. Mainly becker though, just listen to "Air" about 1:15 in the song, awesome...
[Edited by Air on 05-12-2003 at 09:08 AM]
[Edited by Air on 05-12-2003 at 09:08 AM]
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yeah, becker stays pretty melodic while destroying the fretboard. check out serrana
also there's marty friedman, he doesn't play insanely fast but he can shred pretty well and stays with chords. check out his melodic control video you can see what i mean.
also there's marty friedman, he doesn't play insanely fast but he can shred pretty well and stays with chords. check out his melodic control video you can see what i mean.
To improve technique and of course trying to keep all as clean as possible. I know my own limits and speed limits and so on I never play anything I'm not capable of. That wouldn't make any sense. After three years of playing I tried to play everything as fast as possible and that sounded, I would say, like shit, and I didn't realize that if I'd play bit slower things than I was capable of playing then everything would sound much better.
--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
--Aleksi Laiho - Advice to Play By
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anybody play flamenco here? i've seen only a few but those guys can shred too (on a funky, funky rythm at that) that's my goal, to shred faster than malmsteen on acoustic guitar (that has to kick ass, yes?) :P
i wanna be "shredated"
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flamenco eh? if you wanna hear acoustic shredding the flamenco masters are Paco Pena, Paco de Lucia, Tomatito, Juan Martin and Carlos Montoya. the ultimate acoustic shredding album has got to be 'One night in San Francisco' with Al di Meola, Paco de Lucia and John Mclaughlin. 3 acoustic guitars, no boxes of tricks. if you havent heard this and youre serious about guitar get it!it's about the fastest note picking Ive heard without sweeping and double tapping.
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Hey anyone remember the name of that jazz guy who plays chords with his left hand and taps the melody with his right?
So. If you throw a cat out of a car window, is it considered "kitty litter"?
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Ah, that guy. His name is right on the tip of my toungue. Cant remember it now though.
And God said, 'Let there be rock!'
-And it was good
-And it was good
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A guitarist's ability to regulate the dynamics of what they play at speed do limit the possible musicality of shredding. More multi-part, fingerstyle approaches present a real challenge to someone used to shredding patterns because they have to hold down several notes at once and so must find the optimum hand positioning to do so. Shredders, who generally have no fingernails so that they can tap, can make good some of this disadvantage because tapping can simplify headaches that come from positional/hand logistic problems. In terms of tone generation an advantage had by fingerstyle players is that they of having two hands to regulate the timbre of each note
Marti Friedman's album "True Obssessions" may have some duff tracks on it but it also has some beautifully creepy, yet melodic Neo-classical overtones and some excellently expressive and extremely fast lead playing in it. Friedman's use of exotic scales particularly appeals to me.
Stanley Jordan learned to play jazz keyboard before guitar, that explains a certain stark disregard for what many of us guitarists would describe as possible! He is a very amazing player, I have one of his albums somewhere.
Marti Friedman's album "True Obssessions" may have some duff tracks on it but it also has some beautifully creepy, yet melodic Neo-classical overtones and some excellently expressive and extremely fast lead playing in it. Friedman's use of exotic scales particularly appeals to me.
Stanley Jordan learned to play jazz keyboard before guitar, that explains a certain stark disregard for what many of us guitarists would describe as possible! He is a very amazing player, I have one of his albums somewhere.
If I couldn't laugh at myself how could I laugh at someone less ridiculous?
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I know I tend to bleat on about him in many of my posts but I cant overstate how awesome Leo Kottke is and Ive heard thousands of guitarists in my time. 'My Feet are Smiling' is one of his live recordings and it's the kind of stuff that has you picking your jaw off the floor. Before he did his hand in from having such a meaty style of fingerpicking he used to play with steel finger and thumb picks on both 6 and 12 string! The ultimate acoustic shredder, in my humble opinion he's the best guitar player ever to come out of the US.
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Leo is pretty amazing, and he has a very devoted fan base.
Speaking of multi-dexterity, nobody has mentioned Charlie Hunter, truely amazing player playing both guitar and bass at the same time!
Speaking of multi-dexterity, nobody has mentioned Charlie Hunter, truely amazing player playing both guitar and bass at the same time!
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I hate those things. I much prefer long fingernails.
And God said, 'Let there be rock!'
-And it was good
-And it was good
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