I saw Blink 182 open for Primus before they got big, and they were actually decent. The band was solid, and they were entertaining - there was no obvious lack of talant evident. Granted, I haven't heard much of anything they've done since that time that didn't annoy me, but they've come up doing their own thing and have paid their dues.

Avril was made by the record label to fit a certain market, and it's a pop market. If you listen to the album, her stuff is mostly pop with a few punk-flavored pop songs. All of it is annoying in my book, but how does one really get off critisizing Green Day or Blink 182 who've been around for a while, have built up their following, paid their dues and worked for what they've got but not criticising Avril Lavigne who is a creation of a record label?

Does not compute.
Johnny need input.