"I've Seen All Good People"


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06/03/2020 6:32 pm

Hi, Dave.

Just got through the "Josie" lesson and loved it! Now I'm learning this classic Yes song.

Quesiton in the solo... at one point you mention a note on the 4th fret, but the tab says 3rd fret. See attached screen grab.[br][br]I know, I know. It's just one note, just one fret off. And I can play it however I choose. But at this stage in my learning, I'm trying to get it as accurate as possible. [br][br]So at the risk of coming across as crazy Type A, I assume it's an error in the tab? Or do you just think it sounds better with the other fret?

[br]Love your teaching style and clarity, by the way. Thanks for having these really challenging songs to work with, I'm trying to push myself to be able to play them.


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Dave Celentano
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06/04/2020 2:14 pm

Hi FilmYak,

Great eye and ear for spotting the mistake! I miss quoted when I said '4th fret'. It's actually the '3rd fret' and the tablature is correct, plus if you listen very carefully to the performance of that note at 50% speed you can definitely hear it's the 3rd fret on the A string.

Keep those fingers flying!

-Dave


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06/05/2020 5:50 am

Thanks, Dave. Much appreciated.


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06/30/2020 4:39 am

Dave -- sorry about this, but found a couple more minor issues.

For "leads over rock chorus - guitar 3" -- there's a part on the last page where there is no lead guitar for about four bars.

But for the intro to the lesson, where you play the segment at full speed, whoever edited the video stopped it right as the empty four bars hit. Can you ask them to add the rest of this section? This would be a HUGE help because as I learn each section, after I've done the slow play throughs at the end of the lesson, I often go to the beginning of the video lesson and work on playing just that section at speed. [br][br]So this is a problem because I can't play along for the last page of the section. (I assume whoever edited the video saw you pause and incorrectly assumed that was the end of that lesson).

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The other issue is in the song intro. After you talk about how the tab is written for a partial capo, the tab is then written as though there is no capo added at all. So every time you say 2nd fret, the tab says 4th fret. For the entire section. [br][br]For me, this is no big deal, it's a pretty straightforward part of the song so I just follow the tab and pretend there's no capo. But if a beginner student is trying to learn the intro to this song, it may throw them off.

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Again, apologies for the minor stuff. But I really do heavily rely on the at-speed intros, and following along with the tabs until I have each section memorized.

It's REALLY an AWESOME lesson and I'm going to have the entire song down in the next week or so (at slower speeds), and I'll get it up to speed over time.

Any recommendations for other similarly challenging songs you teach? I like your teaching style a lot, gonna be ready for another song soon...


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06/30/2020 5:37 am

Hi FilmYak -- GT video editor here... I'll take a look at that and see what happened. Thanks for pointing it out!

-Carl.


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06/30/2020 3:07 pm

Hi FilmYak,

That's awesome to hear you are working through such a great AND challenging song in close detail. It looks like Guitar Tricks video editor got back with you and is looking into your questions. In the meantime keep chipping away at learning the song and let me know if you have any other questions.

Oh yeah, here's a couple more GT tutorials I did that you might enjoy: Steely Dan's "Josie" and "Deacon Blues."

https://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=30041&s_id=2572

https://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=26339

-Dave


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06/30/2020 4:54 pm

Great!

Already got Josie down before this one. Deacon Blues sounds perfect!


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07/02/2020 7:59 pm

Hey FilmYak,

This should be updated now:

https://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=29585&s_id=2523

Let us know if that works for you, and thanks for finding the bug!

-Carl.


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07/06/2020 5:01 am

Yup, working great!

Originally Posted by: Carl King

Hey FilmYak,

This should be updated now:

https://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=29585&s_id=2523

Let us know if that works for you, and thanks for finding the bug!

-Carl.


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07/06/2020 5:03 am

Dave - question, out of sheer curiosity. When you're going to learn one of these songs to teach it on the site, how long does it usually take you from just starting the song, to "it's ready to record ?

PS - just submitted a request for Kid Charlemagne. Hint, hint. =)


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07/06/2020 2:58 pm

Great question FilmYak! A long, intense, and guitar packed song like "I've Seen All Good People" took me about 3-4 weeks until ready to record. Most songs are shorter and have less guitar fills and shorter solos and takes only a week or two to be ready to record.

Great song request too!

-Dave


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07/06/2020 6:57 pm

Great, thanks!


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