Minor key progression


gilouch0
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04/29/2018 4:31 am

I am going through fundamentals 1 & 2

In Fundamentals 1, in the section about keys, we learned the major key formula whole-whole-half- whole-whole-whole-half with the identification of majors minors and diminished as being I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii.

Is there a lesson about the minor key progression ? I can't seem to find it.

Thank you


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04/29/2018 9:18 am

Christopher Schlegel does a really good set of lessons on the minor scale patterns and positions that you may want to have a look at

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=887


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04/29/2018 6:49 pm

I am more referring to in the formula W-H-W-W-H-W-W which chords are going to be major, minor, diminished, etc.

like in the major it is I ii iii IV V vi vii, where vi is the most played minor, vii rarely played, I-IV-V the main majors and that reflects in the major key scales


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04/29/2018 7:12 pm
Originally Posted by: gilouch0

Is there a lesson about the minor key progression ?

Thanks to fuzzbox for the quick reply pointing to my minor scale patterns tutorial! :)[br][br]The minor key progression is essentially just the major key harmonic order, but shifted over. The chord qualities remain the same (major or minor chord), but the numbers shift so that the relative minor key "one chord" starts on the major key "six chord".

So, you wind up with

i - minor one chord

ii dim - diminished two chord

III - major three chord

iv - minor four chord

v - minor five chord

VI - major six chord

VII - major seven chord

This tutorial covers harmonizing the major scale.

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=495

Unfortunately, it does not cover harmonizing the minor scale! I should add that sometime. :)

I do have lessons that cover minor scales here.

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=445

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=446

I have lessons that cover minor scale harmony guitar parts that might help.

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=2014

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=2121

Hope that helps!


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04/30/2018 1:58 am

Ok thank you for the answer, so this leads to relative key changes, switching into minor/major key scales in the same song, is it covered here somewhere ?

Also lastly, are the links you sent me (music theory, guitar scales, ...) part of one of the experienced lessons rock-blues-country? Or are they somewhere else? I am quite new to this website, so it might be me, but I can't find a class named music theory, except if I do a research then I find Music theory a brief overview, but is there a page on the website where I could see all the available classes rather than to have to do a search? For the moment, the only place I go for classes is home then beginner lessons or experienced lessons... Again, if it is part of rock-blues or country then it is not a problem since I would at some point through my journey encounter those classes

thank you


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04/30/2018 11:53 am

You're welcome for the reply!

Originally Posted by: gilouch0

so this leads to relative key changes, switching into minor/major key scales in the same song, is it covered here somewhere ?[/quote][p]I don't know of a specific lesson on that. But the answer is that a major scale & it's relative minor scale are the exact same collection of notes. So, the result is that you are playing the same notes. What matters here is the chord progression & melody. That's where my improvisation tutorials will help you!

Intro to Improv

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=876

Improv in major 1

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=483

Improv in minor 1

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=491

Improv in major 2

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=2318

Improv in minor 1

https://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=2329

[quote=gilouch0]Also lastly, are the links you sent me (music theory, guitar scales, ...) part of one of the experienced lessons rock-blues-country? Or are they somewhere else?

Those are great questions! No, the only courses are the Fundamentals & Style courses (blues, country, rock). Everything else is either a series of tutorials, stand alone tutorials or song tutorials.

The good news is that all the theory you need to know is contained in the context of each course. In general, your conceptual knowledge (theory) & your physical ability to play the guitar (practice) should keep pace with each other. The best way to do this at GT is to use one of the courses! The best part about using the courses is that you will learn the right amount of theory in the right order as you gain skills & practice applying those concepts, as you progress along in the courses.

It's important to keep your theory & practice levels close. Otherwise, you wind up being able to play a bunch of stuff, but it's unintegrated: you don't know what you are doing, or why & how to connect all of it together.

On the other hand, if you know some theory, but you can't actually play anything, then your knowledge isn't helping you at all. What good is a scale if you know all the letters, but can't actually play it on the guitar to make music?

Another option if you already have some skills, is to check out my older fundamentals course that starts with the basics of music theory: intervals, scales, chords, reading music.

It's a great, organized place to start learning theory also!

https://www.guitartricks.com/course.php?input=fundamentals2(discontinued)

So, keep working through the courses you are interested in! They will show you what you need to know to play music in those styles. When you need more specialized knowledge or skills we can show you where those are! And don't forget to learn songs. :)

Hope that helps! Please ask more if necessary & have fun!


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05/01/2018 2:32 am

Great info, I am really interested in your improv classes!

I already watched the parts of your fundamentals 1 that Lisa was not covering in hers and I will definitely do the same with your fundamentals 2 ;)


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