basic questions

1 why does e not have a sharp and c have no flat
2 why is the 3rd called the 3rd
3 why is a maj scale tts ttts who made this up
4 why is there two names for the same note
5 why is blues prog called 1 4 5
6 what is the best way to remember notes on guitar as they all look the same unlike piano
7 why do i use the 5th fret on all but one string to tune and g string is 4th

thanks :D

I've reorganized your questions based on where you will find the answers.

Originally Posted by: gmixstudios
1 why does e not have a sharp and c have no flat
4 why is there two names for the same note
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E does have a sharp; it is called F. C flat is B. The issue you are trying to understand is: why isn't there a separate space for an accidental (a sharp or flat) in between E & F, B & C?

The reason for enharmonic naming (two different names for the same note; C-sharp is D-flat) is organization, clarity & efficiency.

The answers are here:

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27368

Originally Posted by: gmixstudios
2 why is the 3rd called the 3rd
3 why is a maj scale tts ttts who made this up
5 why is blues prog called 1 4 5
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Scale degrees are determined by the unit of musical distance measurement: intervals.

Scale degrees are labelled with standard numbers (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc.), while chord progressions are labelled with Roman Numerals (I, II, III, IV, V, etc.).

See the music theory tutorial for details:

http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=495

(I have HD vids planned for this tutorial! Stayed tuned.)
[QUOTE=gmixstudios]
7 why do i use the 5th fret on all but one string to tune and g string is 4th

You don't have to. But that is how standard tuning works.

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28477[QUOTE=gmixstudios]
6 what is the best way to remember notes on guitar as they all look the same unlike piano

Repetition, memorization and a strong will to succeed. :)

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showpost.php?p=239229&postcount=4

Best of success!

thanks for reply i will look over this

I love questions like this because I forget so much!

why is it called equal tempered scale if some notes have no black note in between? :eek:

Originally Posted by: gmixstudioswhy is it called equal tempered scale if some notes have no black note in between? :eek:

Equal temperament means dividing the octave in 12 equal half steps. Every half step is separated by exactly the same amount - the ratio of the twelfth root of two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament

As opposed to just intonation (and other systems) that divide the notes in between the octave in unequal amounts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation

Equal temperament makes it possible to modulate, transpose and harmonize across the range low to high of possible musical tones.

Equal temperament does have "black notes" in between some notes. Consider the chromatic scale:

A
A# (or) Bb
B
C
C# (or) Db
D
D# (or) Eb
E
F
F# (or) Gb
G
G# (or) Ab

The sharps and flats are "black notes" on the piano. But here is where the crucial distinction comes into play.

In equal temperament the musical distance between one note and the next is a half step.

In just intonation the musical distance between one note and the next is also a half step.

However ...

In equal temperament the physical-acoustic distance (measured in hertz - cycles per second of the sound wave of each note) between each of these is exactly the same: one times the twelfth root of two.

In just intonation the physical-acoustic distance (measured in hertz - cycles per second of the sound wave of each note) between each of these is different from note to note for some of the half steps. This makes for a very inconsistent system.

Make sense?

Originally Posted by: CSchlegelEqual temperament means dividing the octave in 12 equal half steps. Every half step is separated by exactly the same amount - the ratio of the twelfth root of two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament

As opposed to just intonation (and other systems) that divide the notes in between the octave in unequal amounts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_intonation

Equal temperament makes it possible to modulate, transpose and harmonize across the range low to high of possible musical tones.

Equal temperament does have "black notes" in between some notes. Consider the chromatic scale:

A
A# (or) Bb
B
C
C# (or) Db
D
D# (or) Eb
E
F
F# (or) Gb
G
G# (or) Ab

The sharps and flats are "black notes" on the piano. But here is where the crucial distinction comes into play.

In equal temperament the musical distance between one note and the next is a half step.

In just intonation the musical distance between one note and the next is also a half step.

However ...

In equal temperament the physical-acoustic distance (measured in hertz - cycles per second of the sound wave of each note) between each of these is exactly the same: one times the twelfth root of two.

In just intonation the physical-acoustic distance (measured in hertz - cycles per second of the sound wave of each note) between each of these is different from note to note for some of the half steps. This makes for a very inconsistent system.

Make sense?

well i understand a little and would like to say that an octave up from 220hz would be 440hz

what i do not understand is ok so it is equal tempered 12 tone scale but why is it not the case that we have A A sharp B B sharp C C sharp D D sharp E E sharp F F sharp G G sharp

that is what I do not understand

Originally Posted by: CSchlegel
The answers are here:

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27368

I get some sort of "oops" message, like I'm trying to edit your post, when I follow this link... it looks like a link to a forum post, not sure what the deal there is? Are there protected parts of this forum or somefink?

Edit: Heh - I see that there is a full member section of the forum. I was
expecting to arrive at one of those "please pay if you want to go
here" pages, not an error page, when I bump into those!

GaJ

Originally Posted by: gmixstudios
what i do not understand is ok so it is equal tempered 12 tone scale but why is it not the case that we have A A sharp B B sharp C C sharp D D sharp E E sharp F F sharp G G sharp

that is what I do not understand

Here is a clue: your list contains 14 notes!

That is why I originally rephrased your question in my first reply to:

The issue you are trying to understand is: why isn't there a separate space for an accidental (a sharp or flat) in between E & F, B & C?

The answer is in several of my replies in this thread. :)

http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27368

Please read through that thread and see if that helps clarify the issue for you.

Originally Posted by: GreenAsJadeAre there protected parts of this forum or somefink?

Yes, you are correct. That thread is in my instructor forum and those are only accessible to subscribers.

Originally Posted by: CSchlegelYes, you are correct. That thread is in my instructor forum and those are only accessible to subscribers.

thanks for the efforts I shall try and digest