Arpeggiated Version of Rising sun.Help!!!

so I am currently on lesson guitar fundamentals 2..
First, I was taught how to play the chords for Rising Sun which I was able to grasp and play by strumming
nowwww..the arpeggiated version is fustrating because I have been practicing for over a week and I still have zero co-ordination in my right hand. I keep picking the wrong strings.. dashing my eyes from my left hand (to make sure I am fretting right) to my right hand( to make sure I am picking right) is impossible . I end up looking like a musical mess while attempting to do so.*sigh*..I have studied intently Christopher Schlegels hand placements to make sure I am placing my hands correctly but I still fall short and make mistakes..
did anyone have the same problem with appregiating when they started learning...any tips? ..or maybe I am just being hard on myself and need more time :(

Dude, i had the exactly the same problem! And i frustrated me to hell, but the thing is this...practice, practice, practice. Thats really one of the best thing you can do, when i went trough Fundamentals 2 i also had big problems, including the arpeggiated stuff.
What i did? I went through the whole series of chords really, really, really slow in the beginning, and then you will get to a point sometime where it's like you ''crack the code''

Personally i look at my right hand when doing arpeggios. But i think you should be able to look at both.
I would also recommend that you practice a little more on changing chords with you eyes closed (I did for a time, and it helped alot) just by strumming and not by arpeggiation, like at exercise for you left hand.

Thats what i think you should do, but i haven't nearly no experience. And some of the instructors have some better idea i guess.
But the thing i told you to do here is what i did, and it worked for me. Try it out and be patient with yourself :)

Best of luck to you!

Originally Posted by: yahtzee101...the arpeggiated version is fustrating because I have been practicing for over a week ...
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Just a week, that's all? :)

Seriously, though, that's a lot to expect of yourself. Most likely you simply need to slow down and be patient with yourself. If you want, keep going forward to the next part of GF2. Just make time in your practice schedule to return to HOTRS and work on it gradually until you can get it.

If you consistently work on it, you will eventually get it.
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... did anyone have the same problem ...
... maybe I am just being hard on myself and need more time

Yes, we all had (have) these problems as guitarists trying to build our skills. And yes, you are probably being a bit too hard on yourself. Be patient! Keep practicing, have fun!

Originally Posted by: CSchlegelJust a week, that's all? :)

Seriously, though, that's a lot to expect of yourself. Most likely you simply need to slow down and be patient with yourself. If you want, keep going forward to the next part of GF2. Just make time in your practice schedule to return to HOTRS and work on it gradually until you can get it.

If you consistently work on it, you will eventually get it.

Yes, we all had (have) these problems as guitarists trying to build our skills. And yes, you are probably being a bit too hard on yourself. Be patient! Keep practicing, have fun![/QUOTE]

Whew!! I think I really just needed to know I was not "slow".. I used to consider myself a fast learner..lol. I guess sometimes I get deceived with the ease and little effort with which you play the guitar and I forget you've been doing this for a while..Im thinking man "I wanna be able to play with chris's swagger." lmao
thanks for encouraging words though :D

[QUOTE=caponi14]Dude, i had the exactly the same problem! And i frustrated me to hell, but the thing is this...practice, practice, practice. Thats really one of the best thing you can do, when i went trough Fundamentals 2 i also had big problems, including the arpeggiated stuff.
What i did? I went through the whole series of chords really, really, really slow in the beginning, and then you will get to a point sometime where it's like you ''crack the code''

Personally i look at my right hand when doing arpeggios. But i think you should be able to look at both.
I would also recommend that you practice a little more on changing chords with you eyes closed (I did for a time, and it helped alot) just by strumming and not by arpeggiation, like at exercise for you left hand.

Thats what i think you should do, but i haven't nearly no experience. And some of the instructors have some better idea i guess.
But the thing i told you to do here is what i did, and it worked for me. Try it out and be patient with yourself :)

Best of luck to you!

You know I tried doing the closing you eyes thing and then I stopped. I think I'll start that technique again..Nice to hear from a fellow learner who scaled through. Definitely encouraging. thanks dude!!
For future purposes, I am female but If you are one of those people who call everyone dude that is cool as well.. :D

Try working on a barre chord arpeggio. A song like Creep by radiohead is a good one to work on. Not to hard but you have to keep going. If you are just starting out House can be difficult. Practice about 10 min a day and then move on.you'll get it soon and enjoy the work you put in

I haven't tried playing the song but "Seeing Things" by the Black Crows seems to be full of appegiated chords. They aren't all the open chords from GF1 and 2 but they are played very slow and sound like they should be pretty easy. As I am typing this I am beginning to wonder why I haven't tried this song.

I have been through GF1 and 2 and know all the open majors and minors but I wouldn't say that I am "finished" with GF1 and 2.

Originally Posted by: yahtzee101... I forget you've been doing this for a while ...

Good point! After you've practiced a few hours every day for 33 years, you can reasonably expect to be able to play as well as me. LOL

And you are welcome for the encouraging words. Practice, work hard, but don't forget to have fun. :)

Chris, I used to finger pick this when I first learned it... few years after you started playing (that long ago). Is it a better exercise to play this with just a pick for hand coordination? I've run into this problem of my right hand being hesitant to hit notes on the G string.

Originally Posted by: swright00Is it a better exercise to play this with just a pick for hand coordination? I've run into this problem of my right hand being hesitant to hit notes on the G string.

Interesting question.

It is certainly a good exercise for pick control. Both options, using a pick or fingerpicking, are good for general right hand coordination. But they are definitely different skills.

Usually if a student has a problem with strumming precision, or getting stuck on this kind of thing, it has to do with right hand tension.

You need to hold the pick tightly enough so it won't miss strings or fly out of your hand. But not so tightly that it will dig in and get caught on strings. You want it to smoothly glide over the strings in either direction. Same with your wrist control. Stay loose and relaxed.

Make sense?

Usually if a student has a problem with strumming precision, or getting stuck on this kind of thing, it has to do with right hand tension.

I think it is definitely a problem of right wrist tension and trying to be accurate and hit the right string. Kind of like trying to hard to aim a dart and miss the target.

When strumming, and more relaxed, I don't really have the problem.