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Th3 Omega
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Th3 Omega
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02/11/2009 6:54 pm
I am working and getting chords and single notes down in order from low to high. I was wondering though what the scale in order is.

I.E. Does it start from A and go to G or is it jumbled. Looked around here and couldn't really find a clear answer. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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LisaMcC
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02/11/2009 9:07 pm
Hi Th3,

Newbie questions are always welcome!

I hope I am interpreting your question correctly - and if so, I'm afraid the answer is complicated by some facts of music theory.

You asked about the "scale order". There are many scales, not just one, so the scale order depends on which scale you are trying to play.

If you want to hear the notes of a "major scale" and you have been working on learning the notes, try starting a scale on the note "C", and go alphabetically up the musical alphabet from there. (C,D,E,F,G,A,B,C)

If you were to start a major scale on any note other than C, you would have to incorporate sharps or flats to make the major scale work.

When it comes to the order of the CHORDS in a particular scale, that's another thing too. Now you get into Major and Minor chords, and more.

If we went back to the C major example and you were to play all the chords in the key of C major, you would play a C major chord, D minor, E minor, F major, G major, A minor, B diminished.

Have you tried the Guitar Tricks Fundamentals Course? That might be a good place to go to help get these concepts sorted out.

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ChristopherSchlegel
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02/11/2009 9:14 pm
Originally Posted by: Th3 OmegaDoes it start from A and go to G or is it jumbled. Looked around here and couldn't really find a clear answer. Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Sounds like you are after the order of the musical alphabet letters:

A - B - C - D - E - F - G - A - (repeating ...)

Those are the natural notes. Then when you put in the accidentals (sharps and flats) you get:

A - A# - B - C - C# - D - D# - E - F - F# - G - G# - A - (repeating ...)

All of this is covered in depth in the Guitar Fundamentals 1 Course:

http://www.guitartricks.com/course.php?input=1

Chapter 4 contains "How Notes Are Named (Introducing A-G Terminology)":

http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=11078&c_id=1&ch_id=5

And from there follows in depth tutorials on where these lettered notes are located on all the strings. But I suggest going through the whole course to get everything in it's proper order and context. Hope this helps. Let us know if you have any other questions and how it goes for you! :)

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Kevin Taylor
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02/11/2009 9:50 pm
Argh....
I'm not a theory guy and all this talk of 'proper' ways of doing things is the kinda stuff that made me want to quit guitar to begin with.

Dude.... learn scales in some of the most used chords that guitar players use.

Guitar players generally write songs in E, A and sometimes G.
If you learn a whole load of scales and leads in those chords, you're going to be covered most of the time whenever a band starts riffing in those chords.

If a band goes up to another chord...just raise everything by a few frets and you'll be in sync again.

I'm not against theory in general... but when I learned to play, I learned the pentatonic "rock' scale that's useable in any key and then went on to the 3 note per string scales.

Otherwise.... get out some songs that you really like and learn them...
use your knowledge of pentatonic scales to play around with leads and just have fun..
The whole "theory" thing will eventually come to you but in the meantime you won't be spending all your time feeling like you're taking a University course in Algebra or something.
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Th3 Omega
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02/12/2009 1:20 am
You know, I figured this out earlier today how the musical alphabet goes and how it will start at a note. I.E. C major starts with a C and progresses to G and restarts at A.

I'm working on the chords as well as the notes on fundamentals one but, when chris hammered out a scale that he said we should know the notes to I got confused. Then realized that he didn't mean the notes in that order, just all the ones involved.

So I've almost got fund. 1 down and am almost ready to start fund. 2. I'm gonna focus on some simple scales and then some scales with chords.

I also have to say. I'm impressed with the amount of attention you instructors give these forums. I really appreciate the help guys and will continue to practice.
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