Amps

don't wait for me then lmfao heh... i won't have that kind of money until march. if you can't sell it by then i would definately be interested.
:)

No problem. I was partly joking; offering the Path To Emlightenment for sale.

By March, though, I'll probably be entirely serious about it. I expect to have my home-made WeeBeastie integrated into a complete rig by then. 'till then...

Peace.
L

I stand corrected-
my amp has big hairy nads.
wicked!

I tried to email you but it wouldn't let me (says you have selected to NOT be able to be contacted from the board). So. If you would kindly email me at friskynibbles@hotmail.com I just wanted to know some more about the kit (I'm stupid).
*shrug*

If you want tube tone without volume invest in a
marshall soaker.

There's a lot of stuff here about how to get 'cranked' tone at low volume. As for power-soaks, you'll see that some like 'em and some don't.

I have discovered that it does not realy need the biggest of all amps if u have a PA and a microphone!

there are some small amps at about 30 or 40 watts that produce a very cool sound and if u pick it up with a microphone and shoot it over yer PA it can be very cool sounding! I have seen peeps playing live wit a lil Pignose amp or the small marshall-pocket thingy and it sounded real good!

-=[Azrael]=-

WHY DO VALVE AMPS SOUND MUCH LOUDER THAN SOLID STATE AMPS (i mean seriously louder, like a 30watt valve can be deafening, but 50watt solid state amp just sound loud)


"Are Tube Amps louder than solid state amps of the same power?
No. However they do SOUND louder. Let me explain.
Some excellent scientific work on tube preamplifiers and their distortion products has turned up the mechanism for this. When tubes are driven outside their linear region, for the first 12db or so of overdrive the harmonics that they produce trick the human ear into thinking that the sounds are getting louder, when in fact the sound is getting progressively more distorted.

It is this acoustic trick that can make tube amps sound up to 12db louder than they actually are compared to a perfect, undistorted amplifier. A solid state amplifier of the same power as a tube amp may distort at the same signal level as the tube amp, but the distortions are not subtle, and we hear them as distortion, not as a slightly louder sound. A solid state amplifier of much greater power would remain undistorted at higher levels, and the tube amp would sound comparably loud to the larger solid state amp.

They sound larger than they are. "
from
http://www.geofex.com/tubeampfaq/taffram.htm
note Decibles are logarithmic, so 120 is half of 130, and 130 is half of 140 db in power per unit area... (i think it''s half, I cant remember:()...

That's a great site!

yeah, unfourtantly it assumes you know some stuff, which I think is a little over my level.. that's why i need to learn to read schematics, and learn some general electronics stuff (i've been doing some reaserch but not enough yet, alot of the stuff I find is over my level, they'res not enough for poeple with good maths and physics and crap electronics knowledge)

1, 19ft. guitar cable, 1set slightly used ear plugs, Wanted 100watt tube powered hearing aid, I perfer EL34s

I RUN A 50W MARSHALL JMPMK2 THROUGH A 200W QUAD
IT SOUNDS GREAT I USE THE SAME VOL IN REHEARSAL
AS I DO ON STAGE LOUD ENOUGH BUT NOT TO RUDE LIVE ILL MIKE IT UP WITH A SM58,IT IS A HASSLE TO LUG AROUND,BUT BOY SHES WORTH IT

I think it made you go deaf, stop yelling WILL YOU???

Originally posted by lalimacefolle
I think it made you go deaf, stop yelling WILL YOU???

Its a [u]capital[/u] offense! LOL

Originally posted by educatedfilm
WHY DO VALVE AMPS SOUND MUCH LOUDER THAN SOLID STATE AMPS (i mean seriously louder, like a 30watt valve can be deafening, but 50watt solid state amp just sound loud)


"Are Tube Amps louder than solid state amps of the same power?
No. However they do SOUND louder. Let me explain.
Some excellent scientific work on tube preamplifiers and their distortion products has turned up the mechanism for this. When tubes are driven outside their linear region, for the first 12db or so of overdrive the harmonics that they produce trick the human ear into thinking that the sounds are getting louder, when in fact the sound is getting progressively more distorted.

It is this acoustic trick that can make tube amps sound up to 12db louder than they actually are compared to a perfect, undistorted amplifier. A solid state amplifier of the same power as a tube amp may distort at the same signal level as the tube amp, but the distortions are not subtle, and we hear them as distortion, not as a slightly louder sound. A solid state amplifier of much greater power would remain undistorted at higher levels, and the tube amp would sound comparably loud to the larger solid state amp.

They sound larger than they are. "
from
http://www.geofex.com/tubeampfaq/taffram.htm
note Decibles are logarithmic, so 120 is half of 130, and 130 is half of 140 db in power per unit area... (i think it''s half, I cant remember:()...

:cool:

thanks for that blurb. somebody actually referred us to that site already. it's quite a kickass library of tube info.
-Daniel

Yeppers!! Skaaren is right (Hiya Acron) lol 500 watts will blow the head off a charging rhino!!!!!! If youre at home may I suggest a small chorus amp with lets say 2 6 1/2 " speakers 10 watt .. If youre in a Garage Jammin with Claude Kadiddlehopper on drums maybe a Crate 50 watt 2 12" combo, now if youre auditioning for Whitesnake you couldnt do better than a Marshall or Mesa Boogie Head and at Least 2 4 12" cabs
Ok back to reality Louder isnt always good Dynamics are the key my friend, I saw a good freind go completely deaf
first he complained that he couldnt hear high frequency at all, 2 years later he cant hear a lick. He played thrash metal through Marshalls Most of his short lived Band days
and cranked the piss out of em' he learned his lesson the hard way........... hope this helped.......
warmfret
aka GalaxyBR8

I saw that once at a Yngwie Concert!!!!!!!!!!
I went around to the back of the arena in the upper stands (Like I normally do) to watch the roadies set up the stage etc... I looked at Yngwies "Monster Stacks" and to my amazement all the cab's and Marshall Heads were empty with the exception of one head and one 4 12" cab!!!!!!
warmfret

that actually bothers me... it's like wearing makeup for the reaction.
-Daniel

Originally posted by warmfret
... I looked at Yngwies "Monster Stacks" and to my amazement all the cab's and Marshall Heads were empty with the exception of one head and one 4 12" cab!!!!!!

A prime example of [u]"Perception = Reality"[/u]!