Restoring my old Camaro...


Bar Chord Nick
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07/10/2007 11:04 pm
See now there's a man that knows fast chics...lol
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07/11/2007 12:13 am
Originally Posted by: Bar Chord NickThat's scary! :eek: You don't want a girl that likes that stuff. Fast cars require fast girls. Bread girls aren't fast!



I stand corrected sir! :D
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07/11/2007 2:56 am
Originally Posted by: hunter60Man that car was in rough shape. LOUD and not on purpose either. :D

Haha, I know how that is. My parents car is a '96 Hyundai Accent (lol) but if you only heard it you would think it was about twenty years older and twenty...times...cooler?

Anyway...I don't know a lot about cars, not as much as I want to anyway, but I think that you have an awesome project on your hands here. Can't wait to see those pics!
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07/11/2007 5:20 pm
Originally Posted by: JFRICK.... I just got the engine this past weekend to put in it, a 454 big block....Wish I could put a supercharger on it, but that'll have to wait.


Meh, you build a rat right, you won't need a supercharger. With a Dana 3.55 rear and a pair of Holley 850 double-pump carbs on a Tarantula manifold, you'll be able to burn the tires down to the rims without even brake-standing!
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07/11/2007 5:31 pm

"Dammit Jim!! I'm a guitarist not a roadie...so haul my gear"
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07/11/2007 5:59 pm
:eek: Shades of Ed "Big Daddy" Roth!! :D
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07/11/2007 7:43 pm
One of my faves

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07/16/2007 7:32 pm
Errrrrrr, my heart was broken this past weekend. I was looking up the casting numbers on the "454" engine I got and found out that it's really a 1960 348 big block. Yes, you read correctly, a Chevy 348 Big Block....It's called a W motor. One good thing is that they are kind of rare, but parts are expensive for them. I've never heard of W motors.....or of a 348 big block.
It's among the first of the big blocks, the 409 came shortly after the 348, which these led to the 454 in 1970...
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07/16/2007 8:58 pm
So what are you going to do? Continue to build this motor, or sell it and find a 454?
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07/16/2007 9:58 pm
I doubt I'll put this motor in the Camaro...I need to pull the valve covers off so I can get the casting numbers off of the heads to check the horsepower. The horsepower for the 348 ranges from 250-335 horsepower. If it has the heads that produce 335 hp, I'll consider going through with putting it in. If it's a lower hp motor, I'll probably sell it and buy a 454 for it....

From what I've found, I can probably sell this engine for a good bit, but it would have to be to the right person looking for this particular kind of motor. The 348 isn't considered a high performance engine....

Have any of you ever heard of a Big Block 348?
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07/17/2007 12:33 am
Never heard of it. But I can tell you a few things about stuffing a 454 rat into a Camaro.

You will need to replace front suspension components frequently. A big-block puts way more stress on the shocks, ball jointss, and tie-rod ends than they were meant to handle.

It will be a pig to steer. With the front/rear weight ratio skewed so far forward, understeer will be your constant companion. Unless you power-drift every corner. Which will be very easy to do with so much power and such a relatively light rear end. Which brings me back to "It will be a pig to steer"...

I depends on whether you want to build a straight-line car, or a well balanced package that can run hard and fast on raods that have bends in them. One of the sweetest rides from my youth was a buddy's plain-wrapper 'sleeper' that had a very healthy 302 6-pack in it. Over 300 hp, and 50/50 front/rear weight ratio. Quick, fast, and agile.
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07/17/2007 4:46 pm
Originally Posted by: LordathestringsNever heard of it. But I can tell you a few things about stuffing a 454 rat into a Camaro.

You will need to replace front suspension components frequently. A big-block puts way more stress on the shocks, ball jointss, and tie-rod ends than they were meant to handle.

It will be a pig to steer. With the front/rear weight ratio skewed so far forward, understeer will be your constant companion. Unless you power-drift every corner. Which will be very easy to do with so much power and such a relatively light rear end. Which brings me back to "It will be a pig to steer"...

I depends on whether you want to build a straight-line car, or a well balanced package that can run hard and fast on raods that have bends in them. One of the sweetest rides from my youth was a buddy's plain-wrapper 'sleeper' that had a very healthy 302 6-pack in it. Over 300 hp, and 50/50 front/rear weight ratio. Quick, fast, and agile.


You know, I never considered how the extra weight of the big block would affect the handling. I knew I would have to re-do the front suspension (gonna re-do the rear suspension also). You just gave me a lot to think about......

By the way, I found that the 348 I have is the 250 HP version. I may go back to my original idea and build up a 327 for it. I want to stay clear of a 350 although that's kind of the standard. I want something different in the camaro......
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07/18/2007 1:49 am
My first car was a 71 pontiac G.T.O, it had a 400 ci engine, but i blew that up, so i put a 455ci out of a 68 gto judge, 500 hp from the factory. I bored the cylinders 30 over with black jack pistons, then had the engine balanced and blue printed. It did low 12 in the 1/4 mile. Id kill to have that car back. I got it in 1986 and sold it for 15,000 in 1992. Im a anto tech by trade so I know your 70 and a half will be awsome, its good to be a gear head.
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