Explaning Tempo


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06/26/2007 11:45 pm
Hi. I need to know a good explanation of temp 4/4 time with the beats to a measure. So say you have a drum grid 16 notes as usual. What do each of those notes represent a 16th note right? Or wrong?

If they do represent a 16th note what is the actual time of the note at 60 b.p.m? This is what confuses me. I know 4/4 time is each quarter note gets one beat or whatever so each quarter note would be one second long.

But when you have a drum grid with 16 notes,how does that work?

I hope that makes sense and if not I'll try to come up with a better explanation
Thanks
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06/27/2007 1:38 am
If you have 16 notes on a 4/4 time signature, then they are all 16th notes as you said. They are in 4 groups of 4, so the first one of each group would be the quarter note.

1e&a 2e&a 3e&a 4e&a

As for tempo, let me try to figure that out and Ill edit it back in. After 11 years of playing guitar I'm just now trying to learn how to read music since I'm picking up drums now, so this is a good challenge for me :)

Edit: Alright, at 60 bpm, each quarter note (the first note in each grouping) will be each second. You would play all of your notes at a constant speed. I'm not sure if thats what were you were asking though. Kind of hard to describe time in words, but Ill do my best lol:

1...e...&...a...2...e...&...a...3...e...&...a...4...e...&...a
1second........2s ...............3s...............4s
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06/27/2007 10:21 am
Nice post Hunt.
Hope I don't screw things up by adding confusion to the topic.
A Time Signature functions by measure and may affect Tempo by how the piece is written (2/2 faster than 4/4) but that isn't the end-all. Most early composer's used words to describe Tempo in their pieces (Larghetto, Allegro, etc....) to express Tempo in the Time Signature, from Slow, Not Too Fast, A bit faster, Moderate, etc....... Metronomes, BPM and the such were introduced later and seemed almost mechanical by many Old School Conductors who only used a Baton to keep Tempo and instruct each beat exact for everyone in the group.
Nowadays, when Musicians refer to a "Beat" in terms of Tempo, it's normally referring to a quarter note, regardless of the Time Signature. If the Tempo is 100 BPM, it's equal to 100 steady quarter notes per minute.
To find out how many beats a note takes, you must know the Time Signature.
To find out how long a beat is, you need to know the Tempo.

4/4 Time Signature can be played in many ways; (Tempo - 60 bpm)
A) 4/4----4 quarter notes= 4 beats to the measure, quarter note gets one beat;
1........2........3........4

B) 4/4----8th notes= 4 beats to the measure, quarter note gets one beat;
1 and..2 and..3 and..4 and

C) 4/4--- mixture of quarter, 8th and 16th notes= (4 beats, same as above)
"1....2 and..3....4" "1....2 E and ah...3 and...4"

Although the notes played per beat increased, the Tempo did not increase.

Another important concept is Tempo verses Rhythm. You can increase or decrease the Tempo of a song without changing the Rhythm. Rhythm is the glue that connects the notes in the Time signature with placement.

Hope I didn't confuse anyone beyond repair..........
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06/27/2007 6:07 pm
Whats the easiest way to think of tempo, and know how fast you should be playing? I'm just learning about it so right now all I really know is: 60 bpm = 1 second beats (because there are 60 seconds in a minute) and obviously 120 is double, ect. But for anything else, I wouldn't really know how to calculate that and play it accurately. Like for 260 bpm, I know that it would be 260 beats in 60s, so that would be 4.3 bps (thanks to my calculator hehe). I don't see how you would be able to figure that out in your head though.
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06/27/2007 10:33 pm
If you ever have access to the lessons on GT, Sean Conklin has a full tutorial on time signature

Time signature overview
http://www.guitartricks.com/lesson.php?input=10681

Tutorial
http://www.guitartricks.com/tutorial.php?input=329
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06/27/2007 11:36 pm
Originally Posted by: hunter1801Whats the easiest way to think of tempo, and know how fast you should be playing? I'm just learning about it so right now all I really know is: 60 bpm = 1 second beats (because there are 60 seconds in a minute) and obviously 120 is double, ect. But for anything else, I wouldn't really know how to calculate that and play it accurately. Like for 260 bpm, I know that it would be 260 beats in 60s, so that would be 4.3 bps (thanks to my calculator hehe). I don't see how you would be able to figure that out in your head though.

Try dividing things into quarters, or by half and by half again to get the numbers within reach.
260~2 = 130
130~2 = 65

60~2 = 30
30~2 = 15

15 goes into 65 = 4 times

15x4 = 60

remainder 5

5~15= .33333

Answer 4.33333
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07/04/2007 2:04 am
O.K. thanks for all the replys that has cleared it up quite a bit.
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