Getting heavy gauge strings up to standard tuning.


Vegas Wierdo
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02/09/2007 9:15 pm
I have (scratch that, had) .012s on my '34 scale hardtail guitar. I had them droptuned down to C#.

Yesterday I attempted to tune it up to standard. Once I got past D... the going got rough.

*BOINK* high E breaks.

So I keep going... and then *KWANCK* there goes the D.

D'oh!!!

And the only set of replacement strings I have handy are .013!

How do you get strings that fat up to standard without them breaking?

I know SRV had .013s on his Strat, but he would tune them flat (half step down) so his fingers wouldn't get all jacked up.
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02/09/2007 10:31 pm
I'm no expert but it sounds like you may need to adjust the truss rod, this would have/should have been adjusted for your c# tuning to stop the strings goin slack, now when you try to tune to standard the strings are tryin to bow the neck, tooooo muuuuuuuch tensiiioooo 'TWANG!'
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02/10/2007 1:02 am
The tension was perfect when they were at C#. Played like butter but with zero flop, and them big bad strings just raaaaang like a piano. I probably shouldn't have messed with it.

Well, I bought some .010s today, so I'll string 'er up with that for now.
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02/10/2007 2:09 am
Tune each string a little at a time... When you tune one string all the way up to pitch it has more tension on it than it needs... Start with the largest E string and turn it a few times then move to the next and so on... until you have them tight, but still way flat... Now you can go by half steps... tune each string up a half step and work your way up... This allows the strings to share the tension of the neck rather than one string comping ALL the tension... that's most likely why you're getting string breaking... Or it could be because you've had the strings on for so long that they just couldn't take the drastic change in tension... Which might also be the case... With metal... as I've said before it's constantly stretching when it's under tension... When you put a new set of strings on they go out of tune really easy because they've never been under tension and the molecules of the metal are realigning because they're under tension... Once the metal stretches to close to the apex of it's elasticity it will stretch at much much much slower rate... sometimes your strings will stay in tune for months at a time... however... this state is when the strings are most fragile... They're at the apex of their elasticity curve... which means a drastic change in tension will push them past their envelope and cause them to snap... This is what most likely happend due to the fact that you had them tuned to C for so long... But I would recommond getting a setup if you're planning on tuning to standard... when you normally play tuned to C... your neck is going to be bent like bow and arrow with those .13's... especially sinc you have a hardtail... Normally it's not so bad on trem bridges because you have the springs of the trem to balance out the tension... With hardtail bridges all the tension is divided between the strings and the truss rod... Causing more string breakage and a lot more truss rod sensitivity to string changes and drastic tuning changes... Take it in and get a setup... and make sure you tune one string a little at a time. Never tune one string to pitch... Go slow. This will help the strings adjust to the tension as well and will keep your strings in tune longer...

I did a project on guitar string tension and tunings for a metallurgy class last year....... haha
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02/11/2007 11:34 pm
Those strings were fairly new but then I put that particular guitar in a case for about a solid month before I took it back out and straight away decided to tune it up. (I live in Las Vegas, so the climate is dry as a bone.) With 11s I tune flat (Eb), i.e. one half step down, but anything above that it's usually down to C# (as opposed to C). I always like doing that because the listener will semi-consciously go "what the... something's not right!!!" :confused: when I hit an open string, especially when contrasting it with whatever noodling I'm doing from the 7th fret on up.

I decided to tune it to standard because I just bought one of those big huge chord books which has all the thousands upon thousands of guitar chords that are humanly possible to play. (Some of them you have to have a hand span like Sasquatch with fingers like on one of those surgeon droids from Star Wars.) So I wanted to learn as many weird obscure chords as I could... without having to take twenty minutes to mentally compensate each time.

Ehhhhh... I guess I'll just string it up with 10s and do that for now.
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02/23/2007 12:28 pm
HEYYYYYYYYYY i got that book too
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