haha yea, i used the grungatizer. welll, the only reason i mess around with other genres of music is when i dont feel like playing guitar, so its like my off time music. haha, plus its kindof hard to put anything remotely awe-inspiring in hiphop music, becuase most of the people that dig it arent exactly musically inclined...although i do think it would be rad to mess with some weird time sigs.