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07/21/2006 1:10 am
Originally Posted by: 6strngs_2hmbkrsif you want to move up in gauge, you'll have to tighten your tension springs, or add a another one or two. if you are detuned you may not need to adjust the tension springs. basically, you just want to keep the tension of the strings the exact same as the tension of the springs. so if you move up in gauge, you add tension from the strings, so you either need to lessen that tension (detuning) or raise the spring tension until they are even so the trem will "float"


So the deal is trail and error?
I might get to detune even lower than drop d right?

Cause I know that one gauge more (let's say from 9 to 10) increases various pound of tension into the tremolo (pretty dramatic increase indeed).

Gee, this is a bit scary.
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07/21/2006 6:22 am
Originally Posted by: polanskySo the deal is trail and error?
I might get to detune even lower than drop d right?

Cause I know that one gauge more (let's say from 9 to 10) increases various pound of tension into the tremolo (pretty dramatic increase indeed).

Gee, this is a bit scary.

nothing to be scared about, you really won't be harming anything, you'll just need to spend 5-10 minutes adjusting the tremolo... which basically means, put on the strings, and try to tune up, when the trem starts lifting, tighten the springs (though, I'd really add at least a third spring, they're not expensive. I got some at my local guitar store for like $2 for 4 springs) then try to retune. tighten springs, tune, tighten springs, tune. continue doing that until you are at your desired tuning and the tremolo is parallel to the body.

on my ibanez guitar, when I was still real new to guitar I put 12's on it going from 9's :eek: I didn't know about adjusting the springs or anything, so I tuned it to standard and the trem lifted way out! man, I was so surprised by that, I didn't really know anything about guitars back then. anyway, for the longest time I just ended up tuning it one whole step below standad (d-g-c-f-a-d) and put a capo on the second fret to be in standard. and that's how I played it for weeks until I was instructed about how a floating trem works (and I thank whoever it was here on GT who taught me all that stuff, lol)
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07/21/2006 4:52 pm
I play in drop C tuning (drop D a whole step down) and was able to get my Ibanez set up, used 3 springs.....Took a while b/c of the string tension...adjust the springs, tune, adjust, tune....It can be a hassle.

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07/21/2006 6:27 pm
Jfrick and Toyota man:

Dudes, have to say I'm not the kind of guy that has the guts to put hands on hardware (I use a lot and I mean A LOT macintosh computers and know my way arround them pretty well actually but when I open the cabinet I start to sweat... handy jobs it's not much of my thing). same thing with my guitars, so my question is... how in hell do you adjust spring tension?

It's just a matter of adding springs? or there's a way to manually adjust it? if that's the case... gotta say I have no Idea how that's get done.

One again and I would like to quote Dr. Evil:

"throw me a freaking hand here"
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07/21/2006 7:57 pm
Originally Posted by: AkiraIf you look on the back of your guitar, in the centre of the back of the body you'll see a panel, take this panel off and you'll see the springs, if you look on the side of the cavity which is nearest the neck, you'll see some screws near where the springs hook in, you adjust these screws to adjust the spring tension, I recommend you only adjust by a quarter turn each time.



Awesome, thaks a lot I'll give it a look tomorrow morning
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07/21/2006 8:02 pm
Yep, what Akira said.....

It's an easy adjustment. The only thing you'll need to look out for is to not loosen the screws to where they come out. But if your putting on thicker strings, you'll most likely be tightening the screws rather than loosening them.

The screws move the plate (claw is the technical term) that the springs are attached to back and forth.
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07/21/2006 8:17 pm
Originally Posted by: JFRICKYep, what Akira said.....

It's an easy adjustment. The only thing you'll need to look out for is to not loosen the screws to where they come out. But if your putting on thicker strings, you'll most likely be tightening the screws rather than loosening them.

The screws move the plate (claw is the technical term) that the springs are attached to back and forth.


A mighty place this is... thanks a lot man.

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I don't think so :D
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07/22/2006 8:29 am
If you're serious about 8string guitars, you have to check out two British Luthiers, namely Hugh Manson, www.mansonguitars.com (I think)
and Doug...umm, dunno Dougs surname,but he makes Blackmachine guitars...
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Black Machine are amazing guitars, I've played one or two and I lovge them...they're pretty pricey, but worth it, if you want it...he even makes a fan-fret 8 string.

check them out.
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07/24/2006 2:17 pm
Originally Posted by: Andrew SaIf you're serious about 8string guitars, you have to check out two British Luthiers, namely Hugh Manson, www.mansonguitars.com (I think)
and Doug...umm, dunno Dougs surname,but he makes Blackmachine guitars...
www.blackmachine.net
Black Machine are amazing guitars, I've played one or two and I lovge them...they're pretty pricey, but worth it, if you want it...he even makes a fan-fret 8 string.

check them out.


Man that Black Machine looks amazing! Starting to feel a bout of GAS coming on... :eek:
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07/24/2006 3:08 pm
Originally Posted by: Andrew SaIf you're serious about 8string guitars, you have to check out two British Luthiers, namely Hugh Manson, www.mansonguitars.com (I think)
and Doug...umm, dunno Dougs surname,but he makes Blackmachine guitars...
www.blackmachine.net
Black Machine are amazing guitars, I've played one or two and I lovge them...they're pretty pricey, but worth it, if you want it...he even makes a fan-fret 8 string.

check them out.


Thanks dude blackmachne look really mean, they reminded me some ESP that are cool to.

The thing is I live in Mexico so... I can't really see the time on Big Ben, i'ts kind of far, but hey, there is postal service right?

Thanks anyway
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