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07/01/2006 8:05 am
hi!
why does slide sounds different on stratocaster then on some guitar with strong output pickups (emg,...). is it cause of distortion on amp or cause of pickups. i got strat so i guess there 's no way that it can sound like some players do it in heavy metal bands......or is it?
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07/05/2006 4:09 pm
both the pickups and the amp will have a big effect on the tone, probably more so the amp.

emg pickups and someothers (dont know what they are) tend to be active pickups, most pickups are passive.

now to get a higher gain pickup you want a big signal, this is achieved by having stronger magnets in the pickups and more coils of wire round the pole pieces. this is the standard high gain pickup. but these two things have problems if the magnets are to strong they cause the stings to vibrate weirdly, and you get notes that arent the one you are playing (cos weird harmonics occur). and having too many coils of wire will mean that there will be more resistance in the wire ( because it is longer) and capacitance will build up between the coil. this leads to a loss of detail in the sound because and weak components of the signal will be erased by the resistance leaving a less dynamic sound.

to solve this problem emg and other active pickups take a different approach. what they do is use very weak magnets and few coils arround the pole pieces, but then use a pre amp, in the guitar to boost the signal. some people dislike the sound this gives because it lacks some of the nuances that passive pickups have.


apart from changing your pickups or just turning up the dial on your amp there isnt too much you can do about this ( i dont think i may wellll be wrong). strats just wernt built for that kind of thing. but dont get to worried cos witha good amp i am sure you can get close to the tone you want, because the amp will make a very big difference to the tone.
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07/06/2006 12:09 pm
Originally Posted by: Fret spiderboth the pickups and the amp will have a big effect on the tone, probably more so the amp.

emg pickups and someothers (dont know what they are) tend to be active pickups, most pickups are passive.

now to get a higher gain pickup you want a big signal, this is achieved by having stronger magnets in the pickups and more coils of wire round the pole pieces. this is the standard high gain pickup. but these two things have problems if the magnets are to strong they cause the stings to vibrate weirdly, and you get notes that arent the one you are playing (cos weird harmonics occur). and having too many coils of wire will mean that there will be more resistance in the wire ( because it is longer) and capacitance will build up between the coil. this leads to a loss of detail in the sound because and weak components of the signal will be erased by the resistance leaving a less dynamic sound.

to solve this problem emg and other active pickups take a different approach. what they do is use very weak magnets and few coils arround the pole pieces, but then use a pre amp, in the guitar to boost the signal. some people dislike the sound this gives because it lacks some of the nuances that passive pickups have.


apart from changing your pickups or just turning up the dial on your amp there isnt too much you can do about this ( i dont think i may wellll be wrong). strats just wernt built for that kind of thing. but dont get to worried cos witha good amp i am sure you can get close to the tone you want, because the amp will make a very big difference to the tone.


i know this part but i don't understand this thing with slide. they hear different. is it cause of distortion or pickups
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07/06/2006 5:49 pm
ok do you want to know why high gain pickups sound different to lowergain ones when usind a slide (as in a metal or glass tube you put on your finger).

they sound differnt with and without a slide.

but im not sure if this is what you are asking.

you refer to the use of slides in metal, do u meen just sliding your finger up the fretboard or using a slide (metal or glass tube). i am not aware of them using slides (the metal or glass tubes) in metal music. they do oftern use the whammy bar, which gives similar efffect.


sorry if this isnt helpful i dont reallly understand the question :o
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07/07/2006 4:32 pm
Originally Posted by: Fret spiderok do you want to know why high gain pickups sound different to lowergain ones when usind a slide (as in a metal or glass tube you put on your finger).

they sound differnt with and without a slide.

but im not sure if this is what you are asking.

you refer to the use of slides in metal, do u meen just sliding your finger up the fretboard or using a slide (metal or glass tube). i am not aware of them using slides (the metal or glass tubes) in metal music. they do oftern use the whammy bar, which gives similar efffect.


sorry if this isnt helpful i dont reallly understand the question :o


i found out what this all was about. the problem was in pickups...i should use high output pickups :D
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07/11/2006 6:52 pm
before you spend money on pick-ups, you could try heavier-gauge strings -- much thicker than you would use normally.
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07/11/2006 7:55 pm
Originally Posted by: konmanbefore you spend money on pick-ups, you could try heavier-gauge strings -- much thicker than you would use normally.


hmm...i tried both strings, but that's not it. i need to buy new pickups. maybe sd hotrail. they are so ****ing great.
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07/11/2006 10:38 pm
both strings

there are like 6 gauges of strings, from super super slinky the high e is an 8
all the way to were the high e is like a 14.

most people have the high e being a nine or ten
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07/12/2006 6:43 pm
Originally Posted by: Fret spiderboth strings

there are like 6 gauges of strings, from super super slinky the high e is an 8
all the way to were the high e is like a 14.

most people have the high e being a nine or ten


wow....14, that 's really thick. have you ever played on that strings.
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