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Foggy
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03/08/2006 10:39 pm
i need some help on soloing....(I Suck At Improvising.and im getting alittle
fustrated) when playing in a major key, what is the best scale to use?
I Heard and read that the pentatonics are the best to improvise with,
but i cant find any pentatonic scales that will go into a major key,
A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A (Amajor)
A-C-D-E-G-A (Amajor pentatonic)

C-G from the pentatonic aren't in the Major Scale

(is That How You Find Out What Scale Will go into a Key?)
thats is How I Been Figuring what chord will go into a Major key.

A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A
major:-A-C#-E
minor:-B-D-F#
minor:-C#-E-G#
major:-D-F#-A
major:-E-G#-B
minor:-F#-A-C#
diminished:-G#-B-D

all the chord's notes are in the A major scale. ....im i doing this right?

im Confused About the pentatonic scales... and other scales like
Whole Tone, Blues Pentatonic,Chromatic..and the Exotic Scales

and there are some chords that confuse me.. like Augmented

if some one can help me out,,or tell me im doing this all wrong.. let me know
thanks,
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Nerbaneth
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03/09/2006 4:16 am
There a lot of things about scales and modes that don't make too much sense when learning about them. In each key (for instance A major) there are five different pentatonic box patterns that you can play in. All of these notes will sound wonderfull. If you switch to G minor, there are five different pentatonic box patterns that will sound good if you are playing in G minor.

This is a bit confusing. If you are interested in soloing and curious about the modes, I suggest two things.

1. Search this site for a begginers guide on Modes. If there isn't one here try a search on google.com for the same thing. Learning about modes can be tough and it can be easy, don't let this take away your confidence. Modes allow you to solo in ways impossible otherwise. It all depends "how far down the rabbit hole you want to go" (sorry about quoting the matrix.)

2. The way I got good at soloing was buying a Boss Rc-20 phrase recorder. You can record a simple rhythm with it, and then solo over it. This is honestly the best thing I ever bought for the guitar. The only problem is that you must also have whatever effects you are going to use outside of your amp (unless your amp has an effects loop (send and return)

Depending on how much of a headache you can take, I would stick to major and minor scales and the ONE major or minor pentatonic that goes with it. (If you have an A major rhythm to solo against, stay in the a major pentatonic scale. Don't worry about the five modes of it.)

If you are serious, get into the habbit of learning how to use alternate picking SOONER then LATER. I made the mistake of choosing sooner and my solos are sloppy because of it.

thats all the advice I can think of I hope I didn't confuse you. (please email me if you are confused - [email]Nerbaneth@gmail.com[/email]) I hope I helped you out a bit.
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Foggy
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03/09/2006 5:45 pm
thanks for the help Nerbaneth

What Will The Boss Rc-20 phrase recorder run me(money Wise)?
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03/09/2006 7:51 pm
Originally Posted by: Foggyi need some help on soloing....(I Suck At Improvising.and im getting alittle
fustrated) when playing in a major key, what is the best scale to use?
I Heard and read that the pentatonics are the best to improvise with,
but i cant find any pentatonic scales that will go into a major key,
A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A (Amajor)
A-C-D-E-G-A (Amajor pentatonic)

C-G from the pentatonic aren't in the Major Scale

(is That How You Find Out What Scale Will go into a Key?)
thats is How I Been Figuring what chord will go into a Major key.

A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A
major:-A-C#-E
minor:-B-D-F#
minor:-C#-E-G#
major:-D-F#-A
major:-E-G#-B
minor:-F#-A-C#
diminished:-G#-B-D

all the chord's notes are in the A major scale. ....im i doing this right?

im Confused About the pentatonic scales... and other scales like
Whole Tone, Blues Pentatonic,Chromatic..and the Exotic Scales

and there are some chords that confuse me.. like Augmented

if some one can help me out,,or tell me im doing this all wrong.. let me know
thanks,

You're probably confused because that A major pentatonic is wrong wrong wrong. That's A minor pentatonic. A major is A-B-D-E-F#-A.

Blues pentatonic is kind of a misnomer, because there are six notes instead of five. In Aminor it's A-C-D-D#/Eb-E-G-A, and in A major it's A-B-B#/C-C#-E-F#-A. I'm not quite sure what's so confusing about whole tone scales, simply go up by whole steps, for example: A-B-C#-D#-E#-G-A. Same with chromatic scales, except instead, go up by half steps: A-A#/Bb-B-C-C#/Db etc etc.

What confuses you about these scales? Perhaps someone taught you them incorrectly, because they're fairly straightforward.
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Foggy
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03/12/2006 12:01 pm
oh ya.. over see
they just confused me ,, because i thought you could only play scales or
chords , that had the same notes that are in thier proper keys.
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