Amaj7b3 chord???


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01/06/2006 6:59 pm
Hey I need help with this chord:Amaj7b3
thanks.
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01/06/2006 7:42 pm
What kind of help?
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01/06/2006 8:08 pm
Originally Posted by: magicninjaWhat kind of help?


i think he means what the hell is it?
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01/06/2006 8:25 pm
or how to hold it, how to use it, don't jump to conclusions young one.
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01/06/2006 9:21 pm
Originally Posted by: magicninjaor how to hold it, how to use it, don't jump to conclusions young one.


ok, what i mean is what the hell is it? :p
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01/06/2006 9:41 pm
my guess?

--------
--3-----
--1-----
--2-----
--0-----
--------

Guarunteed wrong but I'm not a theory guy. i was just trying to help him clarify his question.
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01/06/2006 10:54 pm
Originally Posted by: Rsam16Hey I need help with this chord:Amaj7b3
thanks.


Hmmm...that is not a standard naming for the chord. b3 indicates a minor chord, not major. This chord would have the root, b3, 5th, and maj7th notes. A, C, E, G# .

A better name for it would be AminMaj7. It is the "harmonic" minor chord.

----------- ( E, 5th)
---1------- ( C, b3rd)
---1------- ( G#, maj7th)
---2------- ( E, 5th )
---0------- ( A, root )
---x------- ( mute or don't play, but could be played open E for another 5th)

(that's one way I would play it )

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01/07/2006 12:54 am
Hey thanks guys.

Yeah I just wanted to know the fingering for it. :)
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01/08/2006 1:45 am
Does anyone else know any other fingerings for this Chord??
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01/08/2006 1:54 am
Am maj7 I assume

A-C-E-G#

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01/08/2006 1:57 am
Originally Posted by: Rsam16Does anyone else know any other fingerings for this Chord??

Well, go pick out the notes. How about fret four on the high E, fret five on the B, fret 5 on the G, and fret 7 on the D?

Or, if the 4-7 stretch is for some reason too much, try fifth fret on E B and G and 6th fret on D. Just build the third inversion of it, see?
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01/08/2006 2:37 am
Originally Posted by: Jolly McJollysonWell, go pick out the notes. How about fret four on the high E, fret five on the B, fret 5 on the G, and fret 7 on the D?

Or, if the 4-7 stretch is for some reason too much, try fifth fret on E B and G and 6th fret on D. Just build the third inversion of it, see?


Hey thanks Man.
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01/08/2006 1:09 pm
Originally Posted by: audioanimalHmmm...that is not a standard naming for the chord. b3 indicates a minor chord, not major. This chord would have the root, b3, 5th, and maj7th notes. A, C, E, G# .

A better name for it would be AminMaj7. It is the "harmonic" minor chord.

----------- ( E, 5th)
---1------- ( C, b3rd)
---1------- ( G#, maj7th)
---2------- ( E, 5th )
---0------- ( A, root )
---x------- ( mute or don't play, but could be played open E for another 5th)

(that's one way I would play it )

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I hate doing this.......

I must say that this is not correct. The Amin(Maj 7) chord does not contain both thirds. It is a minor triad with a Major 7th interval stacked on top. ACEG# is the correct spelling and your grip is correct but this is different than the original post..... Amaj7b3, which is written incorrectly.

A chords extension never uses the number 3. I could be written as Amaj7#9, in which case the chord would be spelled; AC#EG#C.

Sorry..... I must keep things exact. :o
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01/08/2006 8:00 pm
a C and a C# in the same chord? Wouldn't that sound ugly?
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01/08/2006 11:13 pm
if you want to make chord with this notes
the chord name is:
AMaj7 (9#)

1 3 5 7 9#
A C# E G# B#

B# IS FISICALLY C
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01/09/2006 5:33 pm
Originally Posted by: JoeNoviceI hate doing this.......

I must say that this is not correct. The Amin(Maj 7) chord does not contain both thirds. It is a minor triad with a Major 7th interval stacked on top. ACEG# is the correct spelling and your grip is correct but this is different than the original post..... Amaj7b3, which is written incorrectly.

A chords extension never uses the number 3. I could be written as Amaj7#9, in which case the chord would be spelled; AC#EG#C.

Sorry..... I must keep things exact. :o


Ahh, I see your point. I'm just not familiar with a harmonized scale which has a Maj7 chord with a #9 extension. That obviously does not mean it doesn't exist, just I don't know about it, heh. I've probably forgotten more theory than I know at this time, heh.. I'll have to go back and take a look at the extensions in the harmonic and melodic minor scales to see if such a chord is there.

But, the original question called the chord an Amaj7b3, which implies both a major and minor third in the same chord, so I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that this was just a wrong naming of a different chord, and the closest one I'm familiar with is the AminMaj7 chord.

Now I'm very curious to find out the context of the question, possibly seeing the music notation or chart with such a chord. Maybe it is something written for piano? After all, it is fairly easy to play a C and C# note right next to each other on that instrument. On the guitar you would have to play one of the notes either an octave above or below ( making it the #9 extension), or use some kind of right hand tapping, or maybe your thumb.

Hmm... A C# E G# C .... I would probably treat that as an inversion of some kind of dominant chord, maybe a C13#9#5 ?? But then again, I look at everything as blues ..... lol...

Yikes, my brain is really hurting now.


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01/09/2006 6:48 pm
A chord is never functional as a Major triad with the minor third also present.

It may be used but is more likely to be referred to as a polychord or as your dominate funciton in inversion.

I think I lead more to polytonal explinations.
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01/12/2006 4:57 am
Ok im not sure exactly how to name it but if the chord contained the notes in an "Amaj7b3" wouldn't it really be called something along the lines of an Amin major7 add dim4?
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01/12/2006 5:46 pm
I see it as an Amaj7(#9)
Which is not a Polychord at all, it is however an Extended chord that contains an altered 9th(aug 9).
It can function as V7.
Here you can see the tones that make this type of chord:
A major scale=A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A-B-Amaj7(#9)=….1.…..3.…….5...…..7……......#9

So, it is not a flatted 3rd nor an aug2. It is an aug9.
And here is an easy fingering for that chord.

E----------0-----------
B----------X-----------
G----------5-----------
D----------6-------------
A----------4---------------
E----------5-----------------

Other names for that chord can be:
Amaj7#9
Amaj7+9
Amaj7(aug9)
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01/12/2006 7:45 pm
Yes, but wouldn't C and C# sound ugly in the same chord?
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