3 guitars in my band


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12/27/2005 3:11 am
i have 3 guitar players in my band.i hate it. i am the best and the kid who has been playing the longest(also the worst) gets some solos...but he dosnt understand what a solo is(i know, its weird).have any of you had this problem before.im sure some people like this but it dosnt work for our band

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12/27/2005 3:16 am
it takes time man. you cant jump into anything.

and sometimes... this might sound bad. but when this dude does a solo... just let him take the fall for it.
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12/27/2005 5:37 am
3 guitars sound awesome if arranged right, ex. lynyrd skynyrd, allman bros. but it does depend on your style of music. judging by your user name, I'm gonna try to take a stab at your style of music (I could be wrong). Is it punk?
If it is, 3 guitars would be somewhat useless. 2 might work but with 3 you've got to worry about who's playing rhythm guitar, who's doin a solo,trading off the solo, or in your case, who CAN solo! BTW to your friend that can't solo, you need to get him on this site, it has alot of lessons on soloing, scales, and stuff like that.
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12/27/2005 2:01 pm
Yeah, I've been in that situation a few times. Either another guitar player who isn't as good or one of the musicians in the band who isn't pulling his weight. There's not a lot you can do about it except prove you can do better and they'll naturally turn to you for the solos.
Band situations are tough. There's so much ego involved that it makes things difficult. The thing you eventually have to decide is how serious you are about having a 'real' band and if it's worth it to leave and start something up yourself. Find some cheap rehearsal space to rent, put out ads and notices that you're looking for band members and start auditioning people.
You're not just looking for talent, but the right personality and the kind of person who doesn't need to be told what to do all the time.
I think the best advise I ever read was an interview with Supertramp years ago. The saxaphone player ended up being in the band because he just kept showing up and wanting to play. That's the perfect kind of person you want to work with but really rare.

If you stick with the band you've got now, you'll either have to put up with the situation until somebody blows up and says the wrong thing, or get it out in the open now and say something.
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12/27/2005 11:16 pm
Don't take this in a hostile way, but if he doesn't understand solos, why is he soloing? :confused:
For life is quite absurd and death's the final word, You must always face the curtain with a bow
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

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12/27/2005 11:41 pm
you know what?....I dont know

i would like us to be a punk band but no one else wants it to be...we do Green day-brain stew....yellowcard-ocean ave.....nirvana-smells like teen spirit......and some other stuff. i just dont like a seven person band....were not slipknot(who has 9 ppl....and are very good)
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12/28/2005 1:25 am
i agree with akira.

the only band that you would need 7 in would be like... a ska band or something.
JK :cool:

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12/28/2005 2:18 am
hahahaha shawn crahan(clown in slipknot) yeah we have a keyboard dude....i know its crazy how many ppl we have.I just want 2 guitars, one of them singing, 1 bass, and drums....kinda like foo fighters
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12/28/2005 10:52 pm
Green Day is a 3-Peice band. 7 is over kill. My band is 4 members we have a guitarist-singer (me), rythem guitarist, bassist/keyboard and a drummer. That's all we need. I'd say kick the bad soloist out but I dont really know your situation.
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12/28/2005 11:20 pm
Yeah....its kinda complicated.
o yeah Green Day accually has 4 people(Jason White-Rythem and unknown) but that dosnt matter
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12/28/2005 11:35 pm
Originally Posted by: Blues_Man3 guitars sound awesome if arranged right, ex. lynyrd skynyrd, allman bros.

Umm...IRON MAIDEN!!!???
I want the bomb
I want the P-funk!

My band is better than yours...
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12/28/2005 11:37 pm
Originally Posted by: asylumskater5were not slipknot(who has 9 ppl....and are very good)

Try again...
I want the bomb
I want the P-funk!

My band is better than yours...
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12/29/2005 4:14 am
um....whys it matter what music i like?
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12/29/2005 5:03 am
It doesn't.
The goofballs around here have just gone off topic again. :rolleyes:
... and yeah, I'm a goofball too so put your panties back on.

Ya know what I think. You're concerned enough about this to post the question to a forum. You're obviously questioning your place in the current band and don't like the present situation.
Why don't you just start up something on your own.
You'll be a hell of a lot happier... plus it'll be YOUR band and YOU can call the shots.
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12/29/2005 12:00 pm
Originally Posted by: asylumskater5i have 3 guitar players in my band.i hate it. i am the best and the kid who has been playing the longest(also the worst) gets some solos...but he dosnt understand what a solo is(i know, its weird).have any of you had this problem before.im sure some people like this but it dosnt work for our band

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In the end you have to get to the point and tell the guy who sucks that he needs to either pratice his solos more or stop playing them. Otherwise the band will go nowhere because the other members will start losing interest. Been there done that through a number of bands! Three guitarists only sound good if everything is very tight and there are a few dual harmonies over a rhythm and even the odd dual solo (Iron Maiden now have three guitarists - saw them live recently and they kicked ass). Otherwise it can just sound like a wall of noise. Contrary to popular belief it doesnt have to be sloppy to be punk!!
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12/29/2005 5:24 pm
Most of the time the bad kid just does the bass line palm muted.thats how bad he is .hes been playing for 2 years and he dosnt know how to play in standard so he just plays in drop D.
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12/29/2005 5:26 pm
and no im not concerned about my place in the band....and it would be hard to start a new band cuz these guys are the best i know
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12/30/2005 7:55 pm
Originally Posted by: asylumskater5Most of the time the bad kid just does the bass line palm muted.thats how bad he is .hes been playing for 2 years and he dosnt know how to play in standard so he just plays in drop D.


...ooooo :(

I think you're on to something calling hi 'the bad kid' instead of a guitar player.
For life is quite absurd and death's the final word, You must always face the curtain with a bow
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

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12/30/2005 7:58 pm
Come up with something difficult, and ask him to play it like it's no big deal. Then when he complains, give him a disgusted look.
For life is quite absurd and death's the final word, You must always face the curtain with a bow
Forget about your sin - give the audience a grin
Enjoy it - it's your last chance anyhow.

METOOB
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12/30/2005 8:14 pm
Is he one of those weird looking people you see at the guitar store that plugs in to an amp and just lays his index finger acrossed all the strings and strums some lame rhythm?

P.S. He HAS to know how to play in standard tuning! 95% of all songs are played in standard tuning if not, all of the strings are tuned down to where the intervals are the same as standard tuning. Unless he doesn't want to improve he had better learn.
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