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12/11/2005 7:23 am
can anyone recomend any scales with a persian or middle eastern vide to them. its for a friend and he would greatly appreciate it. (to impress his folks :D )
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12/11/2005 7:45 am
Tell him to try something like.


--3-4-------------------------------
-------4-5--------------------------
-------------4-5--------------------
------------------5-6---------------
-----------------------6-7----------
-----------------------------7-8----

I always thought that sounded Middle Eastern. I don't know if it's an actual scale. Equator or Jolly might be in to let us know. Throw in some quarter bends here and there.
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12/17/2005 8:47 pm
I can't recommend any scales, but I can recommend that your friend check out System of a Down.

They're Armenian and you can hear some of that in their music.
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12/18/2005 5:59 pm
Originally Posted by: magicninjaTell him to try something like.


--3-4-------------------------------
-------4-5--------------------------
-------------4-5--------------------
------------------5-6---------------
-----------------------6-7----------
-----------------------------7-8----

I always thought that sounded Middle Eastern. I don't know if it's an actual scale. Equator or Jolly might be in to let us know. Throw in some quarter bends here and there.


The actual scale is a:
Six Tone Symetrical Scale= [1-b2-3-4-#5-6]
with the Tonic on B...........[B-C-D#-E-G-G#]
And the chord built on the first note of that scale would be:
B aug5th Triad= (B,D#,G)

...B aug 5th
e----3----------------------------------------
B----4-------------------------------------0--
G----4----------------------------0---1-------
D-------------------------1---2---------------
A-----------------2---3-----------------------
E---------------------------------------------
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12/18/2005 6:13 pm
Magicninja seems to be playing the fifth mode of that scale, descending in intervals of 2nd; and finally resolving to C.

Fifth Mode=[G-G#-B-C-D#-E]
the triad built on the first note of this mode would be:
G aug5th Triad=(G,B,D#)



....G aug 5th
e----------------3--4---------------------------------
B-----4----------------4--5----------------------------
G-----4----------------------4--5----------------------
D-----5----------------------------5--6-----------------
A-----------------------------------------6--7---------
E------------------------------------------------7--8--
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12/18/2005 6:27 pm
If you are looking for a Persian sound, that scale would be...Persian Scale...no surprise there.

I`m gonna put that scale in the key of B, for comparison sake.

Persian Scale=[1-b2-3-4-b5-b6-7]
...................[B-C-D#-E-F-G-A#]

and the chord built on the Tonic:
B b5=(B,D#,F)



........B b5
e---------------------------------------------------------
B------4--------------------------------------0--------------
G------4-----------------------------0---3--------------------
D------3----------------1---2---3--------------------------------
A------2--------2---3--------------------------------------------
E--------------------------------------------------------------
Someday I`ll play like in my dreams.

equator's Music Page.

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12/18/2005 11:35 pm
Originally Posted by: Armeniancan anyone recomend any scales with a persian or middle eastern vide to them. its for a friend and he would greatly appreciate it. (to impress his folks :D )


Tell him to join us here at GT, i'm tired of being the only persian person in here :p
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12/19/2005 12:33 am
my father is also persian
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12/19/2005 12:37 am
Originally Posted by: ibanezgirlI can't recommend any scales, but I can recommend that your friend check out System of a Down.

They're Armenian and you can hear some of that in their music.


soad armenian? you would think im that im the last person to know this?
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12/19/2005 1:25 pm
Originally Posted by: Armenianmy father is also persian


yeah, but i'm guessing he's not a GT-member, so i'm still the only one in here as far as i know, well technically i'm half-persian, like you :p
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12/19/2005 8:19 pm
im not persian, im armenian american.
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12/20/2005 6:09 am
Originally Posted by: Armenianim not persian, im armenian american.


But you said your dad's persian, that would make you 50% persian, right?
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12/20/2005 11:55 pm
no, my dad was born in iran but is armenian, so he is a persian armenian, i am an armenian but born in usa, so i am armenian american.
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12/22/2005 7:30 pm
Originally Posted by: Armenianno, my dad was born in iran but is armenian, so he is a persian armenian,


Actually, that would make him iranian-armenian, persians are an ethnic group in iran, they're about 50% of the population, but i see what you mean now ;)
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12/26/2005 12:35 pm
he said his dad was armenian born in iran, not persian, so he's 0% persian, that was my point. it's an ethnicity, not a nationality.
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12/26/2005 2:54 pm
Phyrgian Dominant: H + WH + H + W + H + W
Double Harmonic: H + WH + H + W + H + WH
Augemented Scale: H + WH + H + WH + H
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12/28/2005 8:14 pm
im having some problems reading some tabs and i cant seem to figure it all out by myself. i am a new guitar player, and i need some instruction. what do i do :confused:
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12/28/2005 8:51 pm
basic guitar? middle eastern scales? im just getting used to minor pentatonic... you mean east midlands? like leicestershire or notts? ive sure got some learning to do
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