im i to old to make it(ill never give up! though)
ive been playing for 14 years i love it, im34 now ijust wonder if lables will have any thing to do with me because of my age?
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.....in the free world....OOOOOO
Electric Guitars are the inspiration for cries of "Turn that damn thing down"-Gibson website
# 3
Image is nothing...Obey your passion. Nobody is too old to do what he loves.
Guitarplaying is 1 Percent Inspiration, 99 Percent Perspiration... :)
# 4
I dunno about labels...but I know I (and most other dudes here) would buy music by a 34 year old. (if it's good).
[FONT=Century Gothic]Hope is when we feel the pain that makes us try again[/FONT]
# 5
Who needs labels anyways. Sell your stuff on the internet then you won't have anybody telling you what to do.
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Eh,i'll be rocking until i'm dead...as far as making it(money/recognition e.c.t)I have no clue.I'm not sure I have the skill and ability to be "in demand" as a player.I'm more than ready to write/record material and tour with good people and music(metal of most types)...
Heck,offer me a position and i'll drop everything and pick up my axe...its the matter of finding people just as willing.I can sleep on cold concrete,as long as everyone is on the same page working towards the same goal(support/funds/fan base and musical advancment)
Heck,offer me a position and i'll drop everything and pick up my axe...its the matter of finding people just as willing.I can sleep on cold concrete,as long as everyone is on the same page working towards the same goal(support/funds/fan base and musical advancment)
Try once,fail twice...
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sorry if im the only one who thinks this but who cares about record labels, I hate people who start playing just because they dream of becoming a rockstar... *sigh* If your just going to make that your lifes goal then unlucky for you because the true rockstars out there do what they do because its a passion for them. and in the words of AC/DC its a long way to the top if ya wanna rock and role. AND ps I personally really couldnt care about what age anyone is, if your musics good, count me in :D
# 8
I used to be signed to a label years ago and I'd be real hard pressed to go through any of that crap again. They totally play on your ego and take advantage of you.
Try doing a search on Google and read some articles... you wouldn't believe what some artists go through and the crappy deals they get.
In most cases the artists don't make any money at all until about the third album. And all those groovy perks you think you're getting like release parties in your honour, limo rides, dinners for the record execs..etc.. are all coming out of your pocket.
Like you'll go to a restaurant and 15 people will order the most expensive things on the menu. Then the A&R guy says.. 'don't worry guys, I'll get the check'. Then you realize he's billed the check to your accountant.
Another thing the labels do is sign on a certain number of bands so that it makes the company look like they have a lot of artists on their roster.
What they're really doing is tying up bands so that other labels can't sign them. Meantime, they'll push a couple of bands on their roster and the rest are left with nothing. Like you'll make an album, and can't get any publicity from the label, they only manufacture a small amount and hold up delivery while they spend all their money on their top band.
These days, with the internet.. you're better off releasing your own material and doing your own publicity.
I'm selling a crapload of CD's and songs through places like CD Baby and iTunes... then you can also make side deals for licensing like this stuff:
http://s93744050.onlinehome.us/SchmangeOnline/Soundtrackst0964.htm
For a major advertising campaign you can get thousands just for one song.
I wrote one tune that took only 3 days to record and I had 30 grand in my pocket a week later from a cosmetics firm. Or doing music for sports videos or National Geographic stuff.
Like, no kidding... all you have to do is get a recording application like ProTools or whatever and a bunch of synths then just drag and drop stuff around and add a bit of guitar. I think I put together about 50 of em in less than a year and there's enough material for licensing that you can take a coupla years off or work on publicity.
Try doing a search on Google and read some articles... you wouldn't believe what some artists go through and the crappy deals they get.
In most cases the artists don't make any money at all until about the third album. And all those groovy perks you think you're getting like release parties in your honour, limo rides, dinners for the record execs..etc.. are all coming out of your pocket.
Like you'll go to a restaurant and 15 people will order the most expensive things on the menu. Then the A&R guy says.. 'don't worry guys, I'll get the check'. Then you realize he's billed the check to your accountant.
Another thing the labels do is sign on a certain number of bands so that it makes the company look like they have a lot of artists on their roster.
What they're really doing is tying up bands so that other labels can't sign them. Meantime, they'll push a couple of bands on their roster and the rest are left with nothing. Like you'll make an album, and can't get any publicity from the label, they only manufacture a small amount and hold up delivery while they spend all their money on their top band.
These days, with the internet.. you're better off releasing your own material and doing your own publicity.
I'm selling a crapload of CD's and songs through places like CD Baby and iTunes... then you can also make side deals for licensing like this stuff:
http://s93744050.onlinehome.us/SchmangeOnline/Soundtrackst0964.htm
For a major advertising campaign you can get thousands just for one song.
I wrote one tune that took only 3 days to record and I had 30 grand in my pocket a week later from a cosmetics firm. Or doing music for sports videos or National Geographic stuff.
Like, no kidding... all you have to do is get a recording application like ProTools or whatever and a bunch of synths then just drag and drop stuff around and add a bit of guitar. I think I put together about 50 of em in less than a year and there's enough material for licensing that you can take a coupla years off or work on publicity.
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Your my economical hero schmange.God,I would love to spend my time recording jingles and my own material for independant releases and survive on the income.
Where do you aquire such contacts that are willing to pay?I imagine you have some kind of publicity kit you send clients.
Where do you aquire such contacts that are willing to pay?I imagine you have some kind of publicity kit you send clients.
Try once,fail twice...
# 10
Hell yeah.
About 50% of my time is spent on publicity and pushing my stuff.
First thing is put together a web page. Like I keep telling these guys here, putting your stuff on SoundScan or whatever is useless and just makes you look amateurish. Sign up with an ISP and design a page: even if it looks like crap like mine http://www.schmange.com at least it shows that you're serious about what you do.
Sign on with SonicBids and do an EPK.
http://www.sonicbids.com/Schmange
Forget about their stupid contests and the contacts they give you cause they're just about making money for themselves. Just add it to your signature at the bottom of every email you send.
ie,
Kevin Taylor
[email]schmange@schmange.com[/email]
Schmange Music U.K./Canada
http://www.schmange.com
CD's
http://www.schmange.com/schmangesongpurchase.html
EPK: http://www.sonicbids.com/Schmange
Friday, November 25, 2005
6:28:35 PM
Contact all the places that license material for commercial use like Primary Elements: http://www.PrimaryElements.com
... but be totally sure that your stuff is of broadcast quality.
Sign up with places like Versus Media who do stuff like student films etc... but occasionally the major advertisers use their services to find material.
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You'll find stuff like this regularly arriving in your mailbox:
A film project recently added to our site is seeking your style of music.
Project seeks: Alternative,Ambient,Composer,Electro-Orchestral,New Age,Orchestral Soundtracks,Rock
Project Location: Minnesota United States
Pay? Yes
About this project: This is an artsy, short film that I am working on for the purpose of entering into the NFAA scholarship contest in film. It is about a man who is contemplating life. He starts out speaking in a monologue, and then he is walking along a street with the sunset in the background talking to a close friend about life. It has a surprise ending that makes it all worth it!!
I'm mostly looking for just one song, like something in the style of Death Cab for Cutie, and maybe two.
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Look for the paying gigs but also keep in mind that these guys are the future film makers and if they like your stuff, you'll get a call for more stuff when they're doing a major commercial or whatever.
When you see something they're looking for, write them for more info, get to know them and suprise the crap outa them by writing a tune in a coupla days and sending it along. As well as a few different alternate mixes.
Then make sure they know you can do custom mixes on demand. (for more money of course :)
About 50% of my time is spent on publicity and pushing my stuff.
First thing is put together a web page. Like I keep telling these guys here, putting your stuff on SoundScan or whatever is useless and just makes you look amateurish. Sign up with an ISP and design a page: even if it looks like crap like mine http://www.schmange.com at least it shows that you're serious about what you do.
Sign on with SonicBids and do an EPK.
http://www.sonicbids.com/Schmange
Forget about their stupid contests and the contacts they give you cause they're just about making money for themselves. Just add it to your signature at the bottom of every email you send.
ie,
Kevin Taylor
[email]schmange@schmange.com[/email]
Schmange Music U.K./Canada
http://www.schmange.com
CD's
http://www.schmange.com/schmangesongpurchase.html
EPK: http://www.sonicbids.com/Schmange
Friday, November 25, 2005
6:28:35 PM
Contact all the places that license material for commercial use like Primary Elements: http://www.PrimaryElements.com
... but be totally sure that your stuff is of broadcast quality.
Sign up with places like Versus Media who do stuff like student films etc... but occasionally the major advertisers use their services to find material.
----------------------------------------------------
You'll find stuff like this regularly arriving in your mailbox:
A film project recently added to our site is seeking your style of music.
Project seeks: Alternative,Ambient,Composer,Electro-Orchestral,New Age,Orchestral Soundtracks,Rock
Project Location: Minnesota United States
Pay? Yes
About this project: This is an artsy, short film that I am working on for the purpose of entering into the NFAA scholarship contest in film. It is about a man who is contemplating life. He starts out speaking in a monologue, and then he is walking along a street with the sunset in the background talking to a close friend about life. It has a surprise ending that makes it all worth it!!
I'm mostly looking for just one song, like something in the style of Death Cab for Cutie, and maybe two.
----------------------------------------------------
Look for the paying gigs but also keep in mind that these guys are the future film makers and if they like your stuff, you'll get a call for more stuff when they're doing a major commercial or whatever.
When you see something they're looking for, write them for more info, get to know them and suprise the crap outa them by writing a tune in a coupla days and sending it along. As well as a few different alternate mixes.
Then make sure they know you can do custom mixes on demand. (for more money of course :)
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Thanks for the info...now all I need is a firewire card for my PC so I can hook up my firebox.
Try once,fail twice...
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