major scale....root?

Hi,
I found an image on the net which explains the major scale...and they have a graphic they say to practice with and to memorize the roots...the graphic is below...but how do i know whats the root?



Thanks,
Ryan

Edit: For some reason I dont have that upload box/option under my "additional options" :mad:

The Root is in red.

I despise those diagrams...I can never understand what it means. how can you have 4 roots in the same diagram?thought there was only spossed to be one..

Originally Posted by: x0o_BurnOut_o0xI despise those diagrams...I can never understand what it means. how can you have 4 roots in the same diagram?thought there was only spossed to be one..

Wheres the fourth? :confused:
I see only 3 reds

Is the image of frets 0-12? if it is, that's how i learned the major scale. learn all 5 positions and then once you know them each individually and up and down without thinking, start thinking about connecting them (i.e. sliding up and down the fretboard). that's what i did at least and it's worked out REALLY well. I think it's the best approach. Then after you get comfortable with it, you'll realize all this stuff people keep talking about ionian and dorian modes etc., you already know. maybe that will get you started or maybe you already knew that...

Originally Posted by: AkiraThe 3 roots in that diagram are all the same note, just in different octaves.

Yeah, thats right, they are the same , its just to show the pattern in different octaves.

Originally Posted by: AkiraThe 3 roots in that diagram are all the same note, just in different octaves.

Yeah, thats right, they are the same , its just drawn to show the pattern in different octaves.

Originally Posted by: ScottMoneyIs the image of frets 0-12? if it is, that's how i learned the major scale. learn all 5 positions and then once you know them each individually and up and down without thinking, start thinking about connecting them (i.e. sliding up and down the fretboard). that's what i did at least and it's worked out REALLY well. I think it's the best approach. Then after you get comfortable with it, you'll realize all this stuff people keep talking about ionian and dorian modes etc., you already know. maybe that will get you started or maybe you already knew that...

Umm....Am a bit confused....
"5 positions" ?

What am i missing again? I thought the diagram showed only one position...
and nope, dont have a clue as what the "ionian and dorian modes" are :( heard about them though


Thanks,
Ryan

Positions refer the what note your root starts on like G, A,B,C,D,E Ect

Originally Posted by: gogogoPositions refer the what note your root starts on like G, A,B,C,D,E Ect

Hey,
thanks for replying.


But how would it be just 5 positions then?

A-G = 7 positions...thats not counting the sharps/flats either...
so, what am i missing again?

This (beginner) stage is realllllly frustrating....so many questions :(
but I guess everyone goes through it...right?

Cheers!

That is just a pattern for the Major Scale that can be used in any key.
It`s actually a two octaves pattern, and it shows you the Root Note in three different spots.
If you wanna play a "G Major Scale", just start the pattern on fret 3 or fret 15, in this case the red dots are gonna fall were the "G" note is.

Originally Posted by: musicgu7Hey,
thanks for replying.


But how would it be just 5 positions then?

A-G = 7 positions...thats not counting the sharps/flats either...
so, what am i missing again?

This (beginner) stage is realllllly frustrating....so many questions :(
but I guess everyone goes through it...right?

Cheers!

He's talking about the different positions in which you can play a major scale with the same root. That's one of the positions you can play a major scale in for a given root.

Hi Guys,
Thanks for replying.

That makes it a bit clearer....can any of you point me to where i can find the other 4 positions? I tried google but i think i am using the wrong keywords/phases

Also.....please tell me which positions you guys prefer (and if applicable...why)Sorry for the newbie questions but this is some real interesting s**t... :p


Thanks!

Preference depends one the song your trying to build. I myself dont use the major scale much being that I play alot of blues but I try and know as many scales in a basic position to give my playing more versitility and just for overall coordination

I really love the blues, IMHO few other styles of guitar playing can manipulate your emotions the way blues does...but I have not touched the blues scale as yet...I am trying to do this whole thing step by step and right now the step I am on is the major scale :o

thanks for replying though, your reply confirms no matter what you play its good to have these basics under your belt.

Nobody has replied on the other 4 positions (unfortunatly :( ) and I still have not found much via google...can someone point or kick me in the right direction please?

Thanks!
Ryan

I'm not really sure what is meant by other positions I mean there are other modes which are based upon varying roots. But a major chord has the same pattern as far as I know.

Originally Posted by: gogogoI'm not really sure what is meant by other positions I mean there are other modes which are based upon varying roots. But a major chord has the same pattern as far as I know.

Maybe thats why i have not had much luck on Google, I am getting pretty fluid with the major scale (using the pattern i pasted above) and am getting some muscle memory so i think i will be moving on soon...any idea what those other "modes" are called...or any keywords i can use to find more info on them?

BTW, how long have you been playing blues?

Thanks,
Ryan

Originally Posted by: musicgu7Maybe thats why i have not had much luck on Google, I am getting pretty fluid with the major scale (using the pattern i pasted above) and am getting some muscle memory so i think i will be moving on soon...any idea what those other "modes" are called...or any keywords i can use to find more info on them?

BTW, how long have you been playing blues?

Thanks,
Ryan

Probably best not to search the internet for "positions" you might end up with something VERY different than what you seek! :D

Now that I have time, let me answer all your questions. The people referring to positions are referring to something that can benefit or limit your scalar playing. Imagine the fretboard laying in front of you. Now imagine that instead of the frets, there are note names (A,B,C, etc.). That's what your guitar really is: a way to play various notes. Since we're talking about the C major scale, I'll keep going with that. Every note in that scale will be on the fretboard in various places (C-D-E-F-G-A-B). Just draw a picture of the fretboard and write out where those notes are, then you'll see the different patterns you can switch between. That's what they're talking about. While they do definitely help you play the scales faster, patterns can also lead to ruts. Just memorize the scale on the entire fretboard.

The other modes are
Dorian
Locrian
Aeolian
Lydian
Mixolydian
Phrygian

There are a few more modes, but they're more obscure and not something you need to worry about now.

If you want to play the blues, try dorian mode in combination with the b5 blues note. Also a #7 can occasionally sound nice.