Majors - 1st,3rd and the 5th


musicgu7
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08/18/2005 9:35 pm
Hi!
Thanks to the people here I now know that a major chord consists of the 1st,3rd and 5th

Reading this artice http://www.guitartricks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14553 I see that:
A major chord, contains, the First, the Third, and the Fifth notes of A natural scale.................A......C#......E


but how do you count the notes?
I mean looking that this:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
a # b # c # d # e

then C# would be a 6th....if you dont count A as 1 and start from A# it makes sense...but then E becomes an 8th...

How do you do the counting?

I'm sorry if this sounds a bit confusing...but am totally confused myself! :o :confused:

Thanks,
Ryan
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08/18/2005 11:18 pm
I thought for a time that being British, some of the notation was American and somehow different, as it totally loses me.
I'm considering subscribing to the lessons, but being able to follow the notation is a worry.

Come on Guys, what am I missing ?
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08/18/2005 11:39 pm
In response to your scale question. The A natural scale is : A..B..C#..D..E..F#..G#..A..
so you should be counting these notes

not

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
a # b # c # d # e

hope this helps.
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08/18/2005 11:50 pm
Originally Posted by: bigbudaIn response to your scale question. The A natural scale is : A..B..C#..D..E..F#..G#..A..
so you should be counting these notes

not

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
a # b # c # d # e

hope this helps.



Oops, sorry, I wrote it wrong, I meant:

A = 1st
A#= 2nd
B = 3rd
C = 4th
C#=5th
D = 6th
D#= 7th
E = 8th


but then E would be an 8th....so what am i counting wrong? or how am i counting wrong?

Thanks!
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08/19/2005 12:07 am
This may help, a major scale is set up with this formula

W W H W W W H

W = 2 frets
H = 1 fret

so in the C Maj Scale

C D E F G A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Since C has not sharps or flats your 1st 3rd and 5th would be c-e-g

you only count the notes in that particular key not any other ones

Hope I didnt confuse you
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08/19/2005 12:22 am
Originally Posted by: hbkolbThis may help, a major scale is set up with this formula

W W H W W W H

W = 2 frets
H = 1 fret

so in the C Maj Scale

C D E F G A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Since C has not sharps or flats your 1st 3rd and 5th would be c-e-g

you only count the notes in that particular key not any other ones

Hope I didnt confuse you



AHA!!! NOW I GET IT!
No, you didnt confuse me...you opened my eyes!

I didnt know this: W W H W W W H
I though it was always as
a a# bc c# d d# ef f# g g# a.....

So the A major scale would be:
1 2 3- 4 5 6 7
A B C# D E F F#


right?

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Ryan
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08/19/2005 12:25 am
Originally Posted by: hbkolbThis may help, a major scale is set up with this formula

W W H W W W H

W = 2 frets
H = 1 fret

so in the C Maj Scale

C D E F G A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

Since C has not sharps or flats your 1st 3rd and 5th would be c-e-g

you only count the notes in that particular key not any other ones

Hope I didnt confuse you


Aha!
I didnt know about the W W H W W W H part :mad: he didnt explain that to me.

So correct me, but the A major scale would then be

A B C# D E F F#

right?

Thanks!
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08/19/2005 12:56 am
A Natural scale

...... A...B...C#...D..E..F#..G#..A
.........!...2...3.....4..5..6.....7...8
........Do ray me far so la ti Do

......Root-W- W--.H-W-W--W--H

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08/19/2005 1:21 am
Please see PM
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