I Need Help With Scales Please

hey , i am a begginer and i wanted to learn scales and i tried learning on my own , but i need a little help , what makes up a scale?? and how can i learn about scales for free ?? where would i go for these things

There are 12 natural scales :they all sound like this -
Do ray me far so la ti Do

All the A chords can be worked out from A natural scale

All the A# chords can be worked out from A# natural scale

All the B chords can be worked out from B natural scale............etc

A natural scale is : A..B..C#..D..E..F#..G#..A..

A major chord, contains, the First, the Third, and the Fifth notes of A natural scale.................A......C#......E

A minor chord, contains, the First, the Flatenned Third, and the Fifth notes of A natural scale.......A......C........E

A7 chord, contains, the First,the Third, the Fifth and the Flat Seventh notes of A natural scale.......A.......C#.....E.........G


B natural scale is : B..C#..D#..E..F#..G#..A#..B

B major chord, contains, the First, the Third and the Fifth note of B natural scale...................B........D#.....F#

And so on

I like to make it simple. There is only one scale! (bear with me). play your E string open then play every fret in order til you come to the octave on the twelfth fret-you have just played the chromatic scale in E! Every other scale is made up of these twelve notes. If you don't want to study music theory you might be better concentrating on picking exercises to make you fast and fluid and then experiment with the chromatic scale to find different sounding scales. You will end up playing scales but your route to finding them will have been more intuitive. Try this exercise, use all four fingers on each string, make sure each note sounds clear and pick cleanly down up down up (assuming you use a pick). practise with a metronone and try different combinations of notes the end goal is to have fingers that will do whatever you ask of them.

-5-6-7-8---------------------------------------
--------4-5-6-7--------------------------------
----------------3-4-5-6------------------------
------------------------2-3-4-5----------------
--------------------------------2-3-4-5--------
----------------------------------------1-2-3-4 and back etc etc

Originally Posted by: GramboThere are 12 natural scales :they all sound like this -
Do ray me far so la ti Do

That's a little incorrect. The Major scale sounds like Do ray me fa so la ti do.

But the Dorian scale would sound like: ray me fa so la ti do ray.

The Phrygian: me fa so la ti do ray me

etc.

Hey Grambo, what is a the dominant all about in a scale, isnt a progression

M m m M M dom m

EX:
CMaj - Dmin - Emin- FMaj - GMaj - Adom - Bmin

I may be wrong on that but if you could still expliain the whole dominant thing that would be great. :confused:

Originally Posted by: hbkolbHey Grambo, what is a the dominant all about in a scale, isnt a progression

M m m M M dom m

EX:
CMaj - Dmin - Emin- FMaj - GMaj - Adom - Bmin

I may be wrong on that but if you could still expliain the whole dominant thing that would be great. :confused:

Sounds like you're talking about diatonic harmony... If you play chords rooted on each scale note, you get the following:

Cmaj - Dmin - Emin - Fmaj - Gmaj - Amin - Bdiminished - Cmaj

The seventh scale degree (The diminished chord above) is the leading tone, and therefore is also known as dominant...

And for a higher scale:
e----------------------------------------------------------
b----------------------------------------------------------
g----------------------------------------------------------
d-------------------------------12-14-16-12-14-16--------
a-----------12-14-15-12-14-15----------------------------
E-12-14-15------------------------------------------------

e------------------------------------------14-15-17*------|
b----------------------13-15-17-13-15-17-----------------|
g--12-14-16-12-14-16-------------------------------------|
d----------------------------------------------------------|
a----------------------------------------------------------|
E----------------------------------------------------------|

and then reverse. All alternate picked, might take some getting use to.

Originally Posted by: hbkolbHey Grambo, what is a the dominant all about in a scale, isnt a progression

M m m M M dom m

EX:
CMaj - Dmin - Emin- FMaj - GMaj - Adom - Bmin

I may be wrong on that but if you could still expliain the whole dominant thing that would be great. :confused:

In C major, the relative chords of each degree are:
C Major
D minor
E minor
F major
G major/dominant
A minor
B diminished (triad)

A diminished triad consists of a Root, flat 3rd, and flat 5th. A full diminished chord though contains a Root, flat 3rd, flat 5th, and double flat 7th. This doesn't fit in key, so the full chord for the seventh degree is a half-diminished chord. That consists of a Root, flat 3rd, flat 5th, and flat 7th.

No your losing me on the chord progressions guys
I've since learned on this site that natural scales are major scales:
This is how the formula was explained to me

Root note/one tone/one tone/semitone/one tone/one tone/one tone/semitone
......C,,,,,,,,,D...........E...........F...........G..........A..............B.........C..........
......1.........2...........3...........4............5..........6..............7....................

Root note/one tone/one tone/semitone/one tone/one tone/one tone/semitone
..A............B..........C#..........D...........E............F#.........G#..........A......
..1.............2..........3............4...........5.............6...........7.....................

One tone = Whole step..........Semitone = half step

Originally Posted by: GramboNo your losing me on the chord progressions guys
I've since learned on this site that natural scales are major scales:

Your formula is correct, but I wouldn't call it a natural scale. I would stick with Major or Ionian to be perfectly correct.

here's a good link that tells you everything you will need to know about scales

guitar scales

if you can't find what you are looking for there, go to the beginers section here and i'm sure you will find plenty of lessons there

Cool, yes I will call them Major scales from now on
I originally learnt the formula from my Dad about 25 years ago and he probably learnt it 20 years before that.

Thanks also for the Guitar scales link, i've printed it for reference

Also I made an error on the seventh chord previously, which i've now ammended.
it should have read: A Seventh chords contain, the first, the third, the fifth and the flatenned seventh of A major scale.
Deepest apologies and Many Thanks
Gray