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theguitaristofm
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06/17/2005 9:00 am
hehey

well u haven't asked urself y the strings of ur guitar r called as EADGBE??????



OK
ITS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN TUNED USING THE C SCALE.......


CONFUSED


YEAH ME TOO
LOL



OK
LET ME EXPLAIN


THE C SCALE CONSIST OF THE FOLLOWING IN THE CORRECT ORDER


C____D____E__F____G____A____B



WHEN IT REPEATS IT SELF IT BECOMES

C____D____E__F____G____A____B__C____D____E__F____G____A____B__C____D____E__F____G____A____B

u must b wondering yi have placed spacing larger in some n smaller in other???
let go for some physics first


u people know that frequency is the number of oscillations per unit time........

now pitch is directly related to frequency

so more oscillations per second will produce higher freq notes n hence with higher pitch

interval is the distance between two notes

like u can c between C n D there is a distance

one octave is the distance between one C n the next C ie one complete cycle if
i can say so

so one octave consists of 12 semitones

2semitones consists of one whole tone

(understanding something???)me yes ;)


ok now we move to the question i had asked ^^^


u must b wondering yi have placed spacing larger in some n smaller in other???

C____D____E__F____G____A____B__C____D____E__F____G____A____B__C____D____E__F____G____A____B

answer:

between C n D there r 2 semitones
between D n E there r 2 semitones
between E n F there is 1 semitone
between F n G there r 2 semitones
between D n A there r 2 semitones
between A n B there r 2 semitones
between B n C there is 1 semitone

ok lets add up 2+2+1+2+2+2+1=12 semitones :)

C= Do=Sa
D= Re=Re
E=Mi=Ga
F=Fa=Ma
G=Sol=Pa
A=La=Dha
B=Si=Ni

converting english version to italian version then to indian version


well i need to clear sth i cant understand thats y i am posting what i know so that u people can help me with sth
I am posting what i know so u can clear any misunderstandings i have or u have :nananana:

now second part

ok since C n D r separated by 2 semitones
if u increase C by one semitone u will get C# (C sharp)
if u decrease C by one semitone su will get Cb (C flat)

ok if u have some logic u will realise that if u increase C by one semitone n
decrease D by one semitone then u will reach same point........

yeah u r 100% right

C# = Db

the u must b wondering that for the one semitones diatance separated notes what will happen??


its simple u can say that B= Cb
E# =F
Fb = E




ok to simplify the work here is summary
C# D# Gb G# A#
C D E F G A B C
Db Eb (Fb) (E#) F# Ab Bb (Cb)


well i hope u understood that part

:)


now we move to another part

the fret board


i had asked u b4 why u called the strings as EADGBE (Even After Dinner Greedy Boys Eat)


thats because

here is the arrangement for the C sacle on ur fretboard


fret number
string 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
name
E E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C Db

B B C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab

G G Ab A Bb B C Db D Eb E

D D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B

A A Bb B C Db D Eb E F Gb

E E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C Db



ok thats the fret arrangement


ok to get a chord
let say eg chord C major
we take 1,3perfect,5
for C minor we use 1, b3,5


ok let consider the C major case

C____D____E__F____G____A____B
we refer to our "famous line of tones"


now since its C major u consider C as number one
(ie u had to find D major u would consider D as number one)

ok If C is one E will b 3 G will b 5

hence C major = C E G

now how to find the chord postion on our fret board

we use the fretboard diagram i have posted above

fret number
string 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
name
E E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C Db

B B C Db D Eb E F Gb G Ab

G G Ab A Bb B C Db D Eb E

D D Eb E F Gb G Ab A Bb B

A A Bb B C Db D Eb E F Gb

E E F Gb G Ab A Bb B C Db



NOW A QUESTION TO ALL THOSE GUITARIST
HOW TO FIND THE CHORD POSITION USING ALL WHAT I HAVE
TYPED ABOVE ..............??????????????????????????


THAT THE PART I'VE STILL NOT UNDERSTOOD WELL...............
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06/18/2005 12:18 am
What the hell...?

If you're just wanting to know how to find chord positions then just locate the notes that make a certain chord. We'll use the chord you've supplied us with and say C, E, and G. Find each one of those notes and play them together and you've got yourself a Cmaj chord. It doesn't matter what order you play them in, where on the neck or anything. Just so long as those 3 notes are the ones playing you're using the Cmaj chord. Some examples.

This is a common form for the Cmaj chord.
E:-0
B:-1
G:-0
D:-2
A:-3
E:--

But this is a variation of that same chord.
E:-8
B:-8
G:-9
D:-10
A:-10
E:-8

Those are the same chords because all the notes that make the Cmaj (C, E, and G) chord all happen to fall on those frets. Make sense?
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06/18/2005 6:39 am
no.....
well is it tru we can use what ever i've said to form chords in differnt postions ie some barre or open ones??
then how???can we form these chords
n what is the use of learning abt the scales things n so on?????
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06/18/2005 2:48 pm
What makes a chord a specific chord is the notes that are played at the same time. Doesn't matter where the notes are on the neck, just so long as the notes are specific.

As for the scale value. Well, chords are derived from scales. If we didn't have scales then we'd have no way to form chords (no convenient way anyway). A scale is a selection of notes within an octave. A chord is a selection of notes within a scale that are played at the same time. An arpeggio is the same thing as a chord only instead of playing the notes at the same time, you playing them as individual notes.
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06/18/2005 2:53 pm
u said chords r derived from scales am i right
??
is it true that we use let consider for C major chord
we use C E G

so where to get the positions of the fingers for C E G?????

or if what i just tped is false how do we usually find the alternative ie other forms of some chords???
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06/18/2005 9:43 pm
The open strings E.B.G.D.A.E are the notes of : E minor pentatonic And

G major pentatonic when put in the correct order/s

E minor pentatonic is E.G.A.B.D,

G major pentatonic is G.A.B.D.E
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